FREDDIE ROACH must feel like an *******...

[Truth]

the going to the wrong corner 4 times thing always seemed to weird to me....I think roach read into that, maybe bernard was just caught up in the fight and wasn't thinking.

Bernard hasn't taken alot of punishment in his career. And hes never appeared to be punch drunk. I think Roach was simply wrong in his opinion....

[Miburo]

No more than usual. He said Vasquez was finished too, and refused to train him further. Great judgment Freddie

[!! Shawn]

I just about to post the Vasquez bit.

He refused to train Vasquez after the first loss to Marquez. Good call Freddie.

[Fox McCloud]

lol. remember? He said he didn't want to train Hopkins for this fight because he thought he was going to get hurt.

Is it coincident that when Freddy Trained Hopkins, Hopkins lost?

Same **** that he did with Israel Vazquez after he lost to Marquez... then Vazquez looked twice as good in the second and third fights without his ass.

I get the feeling that Roach is actually pretty overrated as a trainer.