Vitali’s Performance Was a Tribute To Lennox Lewis

[elbonzoseco]

About me being obsessive, I'm posting a comment about an article that claims Vitalys last win made Lewis' legacy look even better, mmh okay...

No, he didn't need his approval, but he was playing sharade with Vitaly. First he had to have his eye examined by Lewis' doctors, then he had to beat Kirk Johnson and then ... oops... then nothing. That's like buying her flowers, taking her for dinner, meeting her parents and then she suddenly says, "I'm sorry but I'm a lesbian.."

That quote was not complete....

The cut itself was luck actually, but the way he worked to open it even more, was skill, I'll give him that. I'd dare to say, the cut was his lifeboat. When he realized it, Lewis became much more focused and got a new hope. Before, he didn't really know what to do.

[edgarg]

By Brent Matteo Alderson - When a fighter beats another fighter and that fighter goes on to greater success, it adds something to their conqueror’s legacy. Salvador Sanchez is a prime example of this phenomenon. [details]

I'm really getting tired telling Mr. Brent Matteo Alderson that he doesn't know what he's talking about. The other posters seem to have done a better job than I, but here goes/

Brent matteo, you are blowing smokerings through that little hole in the top of your head since, evenrything that the other posters have written is perfectly true, and you damned well know it, AND.....lest we forget, your little piece of refuse about Klitschko being in the best shape of his life because he was just trying to come back from having lost to Chris Byrd etc.etc and on ad nauseam.

There's no doubt but that BOXREC is very handy somethines....like NOW. Look it up...you'll see Brent Matteo, that Klitschko, AFTER the Byrd fight which he was winning by a COUNTRY MILE (which was often miles longer than a notmal mile, depending on whcih country denizen you asked= I had an experience of this once. One day I'll write it, if anyone is interested, it was-to me- hilarious) I say, AFTER the BYrd fight he had 5 more fights before Lewis, I said FIVE. They were against UNBEATEN fighters, or fighters who had never before been KO'd. He KO'd all except the 6'7" unbeaten Timo Hoffman who'd drawn for the EBU Title and shortly afer, won it. He won EVERY round against Hoffmann as indeed he had been and continued to do against everybody else, except the 2 very dubious rounds agaisnt Lewis.

Lewis was on his last legs and staggered, actually wandered to his stool which he nearly overbalanced. He was so lucky that that imbecile dr. stopped the fight by mistaking Klitschko's inattention to his thin, reedy voice, in all the hubbub in several languages, for an injured eyeLID. NO DAMNED WONDER that Klitschko was OUTRAGED,and Lewis made it much worse by his nasty, malicious interview after the fight, qwhen he was still shaking from his miraculous present from above. And Lewis has kept up the nasty feelings.

So Brent Matteo, although I like reading you, I don't like reading unfiltered crap.

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I can't beleive people think Lewis was afraid of Vitali after fighting some of the best heavyweights of the last fifty years. Lewis just didn't want to sacrifice anymore and make 10 or 13 million dollar pay days after making 40 for the Tyson fight. After someone start making 50 or 60k a year salary, they don't won't work for 10 bucks an hour. Its that simple.

They damned well DO if they can't get anything better, I know I've been through it myself, although long ago.......

Stop blowing smoke rings thriough that little hole in the top of your head......

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That's speculation at best. Vitlai getting busted wide open in different parts of his face is fact.

Lewis didn't win the LAST two rds of the fight, he won the round in which he made the eyebrow cur rd 3, and the rd in which he made a few uppercuts which K blocked by they looked good to the judges that was rd 4. Klitschko won rds 5 and 6, and the momentum was well with him. Lewis had given his all in rds 3 and 4, and barly got to his stool at the end of rd 6.


Why do you think Klischko was SO OUTRAGED that it has lasted until today. he thought that ONE MORE ROUND and he's the Heavyweight Champ of the World......That's why.'

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That's about the smartest logic I've seen here today and I see some pretty damn smart logic here!



Ok. Where were we? Oh ... Klit. I think a lot of people don't really understand what was happening to Klit's eye. That thing was a severe mess. Another two rounds, and Lewis was getting stronger, and it would have swollen over his eye and kept splitting further down and across. Imagine Vargas' eye against Mosley with Klit's cut over the top ... Because that's what would have eventually happened.

Folks also don't get the fact that Lewis hardly trained at all. He had never come into a fight in worse shape, which is his own ****** fault, but it just shows you that if they had had a rematch with the proper Lewis, as in the one that was in against Tyson, it would have been a lot worse for Klit and a lot easier for Lewis.

It's not as if Klit was going to start seeing out of his eye suddenyl or that his team were going to stop the bleeding or keep the cut from reopening and getting bigger is it? If you can do damage to your opponents facial tissue, you can win the fight by making it so bad that the fight has to be stopped due to the danger to the other guy. Lewis executed that strategy to perfection. There has rarely been a cut as bad as that one and Lewis was going to do everything to make it worse. That was a genuine win and not some 'luck' thing like all the Klit fans seem to think it was. It didn't happen by accident, it happened because Lewis was trying to break Klit's face open exactly as he did! No different from if he had out-pointed him or even knocked him out.

BENNY- Amongst the people who didn't really know what was happening to Klitschko's eye IS YOU....because you absolutely don't know what you're talking about. His EYE was perfectly FINE, NO PROBLEMS, NO VISION LOSS, it was his EYEBROW which was cut, and it had been under COMPLETE CONTROL for 3 rounds already, since the intermission after the 3rd. Doidn't even bleed again when it got a whack.

Since you don't know what you're talking about, as is very evident from the rest of your megillah, I'll say no more, it's all been said many times on this thread already. Learn alittle about boxing my boy, and you'll grow up to be a great man.

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where does people get it from that vk was in tip top shape, why would he ?

he was preraring for cedric boswell if i remember correctly anf LL was preparing for kirk johnson.

now going from boswell to lewis is a bigger step than going from jonson to vk

You know what you're talking about.

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You know what you're talking about.

And allow me to add, and I hope I'm not mistaken, but wasn't Klitschko
Lewis's No. 1 Challenger for about a year already and Lewis wasn't fighting him?? Correct me if I'm wrong, as I very well could be.

[Steak]

Cedric Boswell was an undefeated big guy with a high KO percentage. he was kind of untested, but still probebly an overall bigger threat than Kirk Johnson...who had already been knocked down and hurt against John Ruiz, and ended up being disqualified because Ruiz overacted to low blows.

the main thing that points to Lewis being out of shape is his weight anyway. he was heavier than any time in his career, including the Rahman fight where he was clearly slower and out of shape. I dont remember Vitali's weight being higher than usual at all, and overall that was one of his best performances anyway, while Lewis looked sloppier than usual.

[theboymartay]

Bottom line in a dying division Vitali needed Lewis to make his championship legimate, one defence against Danny Williams doesnt make Vitali this brilliant champion i am sorry I dont get it!!!

Vitali does the basics very well, he has a good chin, but he isnt anything really special I am sorry. I think in another era he would have got beaten by Ken Norton let alone Ali, Foreman or Frazier!!!

I remember being in the states and pundits ****ing on about Michael Grant was going to destroy Lewis and we all saw what happened. A fit focused lewis WOULD beat Vitali as he is the far better boxer, YES I imagine Vitali might win the first few rounds but as the fight when on Lewis would take over as he always a little slow at times on the uptake.

The article itself I dont necessarly agree with as I think its slightly one sided, but I dont beleive state side Lewis gets the credit he deserves and I love the fact he stopped Don King making as much money as he might have done!!

[MatteoAlderson]

Even though Klitchko had won five bouts since the Byrd fight and even though a couple of them were solid wins, state side he hadnt erased the stigma of the Byrd loss and because of that fight everybody was calling him "bitchko" and guys like Toney were calling them the Klitchko sisters. Vitali didn't really live down that Byrd loss until he wanted to continue in the Lewis fight even though his face was falling off.