only when calzaghe retires will he get the respect he deserves

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  • THE REED
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    #11
    he gets my respect... if he fights dawson, or pavlik... if he doesnt.. theres to many if's as far as who hes fought for me..

    lacy - a truly overhyped contender, who had beaten nobody before, or after calzaghe
    kessler - a good fighter, but with no significant names on his resume, before or after calzaghe
    hopkins - one of the greatest MW's of all time... only he was 43 when they fought, and at LHW
    Jones - This one isnt over yet, but lets assume he beats Roy.. One of the best multi-divisional champs... only hes 2 months shy of 40, and has lost 3 of his last 6, 2 by knockout... and hasnt beaten a truly elite fighter since Tarver I in 2004, almost 5 years ago.

    Thats too many if's for me....

    BUT!!!!!!!!!!!

    If he fights and beats Pavlik or Dawson, then he deserves much respect

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    • Kris Silver
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      #12
      There'll always be another opponent Joe "needs to face to prove himself".

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      • Steak
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        #13
        Virgil Hill was also a two weight class world champ with over 20 title defences. he also won a title in his early 40s. what makes Calzaghe any better than him? does Hill get the respect he deserves?

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #14
          Originally posted by KrisSilver
          There'll always be another opponent Joe "needs to face to prove himself".
          Yep. He'll only get respect if they invent time travel and Jones and Hopkins decide to actually fight him. And Toney decides to stop eating.

          I dont anticipate him being suddenly a universally recognised ATG after beating Kelly Pavlik

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          • boxasmash
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            #15
            Originally posted by KrisSilver
            There'll always be another opponent Joe "needs to face to prove himself".
            they will only be happy until he loses a fight and when he does they will say 'he should have retired ages ago'

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            • egreezy
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              #16
              Originally posted by KrisSilver
              There'll always be another opponent Joe "needs to face to prove himself".
              whose to blame for this? in my opinion there is only 2

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              • IMDAZED
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                #17
                Originally posted by KrisSilver
                There'll always be another opponent Joe "needs to face to prove himself".
                There's always another opponent for EVERYONE. Calzaghe doesn't have to fight them, he can retire and waltz into the Hall of Fame. But if he's not happy citing Lacy & Kessler over and over again (one guy who will never sniff the Hall and another who has done nothing to get anything but a visitor's pass) then yeah, a Dawson would be nice.

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                • ACHlLLES
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                  #18
                  When does my favorite boxer Calzaghe fight Kelly Pavlik. You know, the same Pavlik whos resume is so much better then Kessler and Lacy's in my opinion.

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                  • S A M U R A I
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                    • S A M U R A I
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      If he fights and beats Pavlik or Dawson, then he deserves much respect
                      I feel you actually respect Joe more than you're letting on. You are wanting to like him, but it's "not cool" to like Joe.

                      As for Dawson & Pavlik...

                      Joe is far too skilled to lose to Pavlik. In terms of technique, they are leauges apart. Joe also has the kind of chin that wouldn't be affected by his shots. If they do fight, Kelly should be grateful to get a free boxing tutorial from Joe.

                      Dawson? Super Joe out-hustles him all day.



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