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  • kg21mvp
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    #1

    foreman and hopkins

    with hopkins still fighting at the age of 43 and doing a decent job at it and big george foreman won the heavyweight crown at the age of 45.

    who's more impressive? given that their age is not to their advantage when they fought their respective opponents.
  • Fulcrum29
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    lower weight at an older age is always far more impressive because of the fact that heavyweights are prime for far longer since lower weights depend far more on their speed and reflexes than heavyweights who need only a good chin and power for the most part which never really leaves them even in older age.

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    • Thread Stealer
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      #3
      Hopkins is more impressive.

      In addition to the weight thing mentioned above, Hopkins is also facing better opposition.

      Foreman was careful in selecting whom he fought. The closest thing to a contender he fought on the way to the title shot was Adilson Rodriguez, and even he had been starched by one punch by Holyfield. After losing to Holyfield, Foreman faced journeyman Jimmy Eliis, supposedly shot (even his manager publically expressed doubt) Alex Stewart, Pierre Coetzer coming off 2 straight stoppage losses, and then lost by a wide margin to Tommy Morrison, before beating Michael Moorer.

      For the most part, Hopkins since turning 40 has faced nothing but top contenders and champs.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #4
        B-Hop ofcourse. B-Hop still GOT it only ONE major problem...stamina, which killz his workrate ofcourse. Big George was impressive also but he was a fighter who waited to land a big shot....this was when he was old old

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          #5
          Originally posted by Thread Stealer
          Hopkins is more impressive.

          In addition to the weight thing mentioned above, Hopkins is also facing better opposition.

          Foreman was careful in selecting whom he fought. The closest thing to a contender he fought on the way to the title shot was Adilson Rodriguez, and even he had been starched by one punch by Holyfield. After losing to Holyfield, Foreman faced journeyman Jimmy Eliis, supposedly shot (even his manager publically expressed doubt) Alex Stewart, Pierre Coetzer coming off 2 straight stoppage losses, and then lost by a wide margin to Tommy Morrison, before beating Michael Moorer.

          For the most part, Hopkins since turning 40 has faced nothing but top contenders and champs.

          yup good point hopkins is facing atg's and hof'ers, foreman faced no names that neither you nor I even heard of before. He barely beat Moorer with a lucky shot ina fight he was getting demolished in and losing on all the cards and he got bulldozed by shannon briggs, a joke heavyweight. Hopkins is fighting atg/goat/hofers and still holding his own or wooping them.

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          • Silencers
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            #6
            Hopkins, heavyweights age older than fighters in lower divisions, you have more of a shot at becoming heavyweight champion at age 40 than being light heavyweight champion at the same age because the lower weights require more reflexes and speed, which are normally the first things to go when a fighter gets old.

            And as Thread Stealer said, Foreman was pretty picky about who he fought and was getting his ass kicked by Moorer until he landed that right hand, Hopkins has fought top contenders and champions in the past couple of years, and every fight he has lost has been either close or controversial, sometimes both, can't say the same for Foreman's losses.

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            • TheGreatA
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              I guess you could make the case that it is more impressive for a fat, old and slow Foreman to win the title than Hopkins who still seems like he is in great condition (although his stamina has obviously diminished). Foreman looked his age, Hopkins does not.

              Then again Holyfield looks to be in great shape too.

              Foreman fought worse opposition but he also fought younger opposition. It'll be interesting to see how Hopkins deals with 26 year old Pavlik at this point.

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              • krispy kreme
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                #8
                Hopkins because even though Foreman had KO'd Moore he still was getting out punched fairly easy. Hopkins still makes it difficult for the younger fighters.

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                • larryx
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                  #9
                  Hopkins Cause He's Never Been Beaten Up..foreman Was Taking Punishment In His Return

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                    #10
                    i'll go with Hopkins just because of the level of competition and the quality of his performances as he went up in age...


                    however, ANY boxer coming back from a 10 year layoff and becoming significant again is very noteworthy

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