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  • What is it about these big guys?

    Questions I always ask myself in this dull division of today and the near distant future.

    What is it about these big guys that attract the people and the mega bucks?


    Looking back at these past current months even dipping into the past 10 years AT LEAST!

    Why are the heavyweights still the biggest draws in boxing?

    Granted the dlh vs hopkins fight was the biggest easily in the past 5 years.

    But why are people so enchanted with the heavyweight division? Most heavyweights (excluding the greats such as evander/muhammad ali/foreman/norton/frazier/lewis) are dull and bland, most heavyweights today are not carrying the mystique of yesterday?


    But what is the "enchantment" with the heavyweight division?

    The smaller fighters (160 and below) are getting more attention then before, but soon as the next great heavyweight arises, the lighter divisions will lose their spark and be right back up to the heavies.

    Lighter fighters are craftier/faster/hit hard and are beautiful to watch....Most of the time in heavyweight fights we get slow and out of shape fighters, who have no idea what they are doing in the ring to begin with. The smaller guys carry more knowledge into the ring nowadays then those big bafoons! Their isnt one heavyweight in the division right now who would even crack the top 10 even top 15 of great heavyweights, while I can easily name at least 10 or 15 lighter guys who come to mind....

    With the likes of morales/barrera/pacquaio/dlh/hopkins/gatti/spinks/mayorga/judah and others it is exciting to watch as these divisions are so DEEP with REAL TALENT!

    Despite being the bigger draws today (smaller guys) their purses are not reflecting that, why are these guys that are selling out arenas and stadiums fighting for their life each and everytime out getting paid fragments of what mediocre heavyweight fighters get fighting in tool sheds/bars and ballrooms......


    When everyday I have to remember John Ruiz and Vitali Klitschko are the top in the heavyweight division it sickens me...Prime Example


    Vitali Klitschko vs Danny Williams on december 13th (maybe?) will be on pay per view carrying a 40 dollar price tag...How do these 2 horrendous fighters (back off nicht) still get the recognition most fighters are dying for?


    What is it about these damn big guys that attract so many fans and still continue to get more recognition then the great fighters down south?


    If all I have to look forward to is a very green Joe Mesi and a ukranian knocking fat pieces of chopped liver out in a few rounds every 6 months in boxing, and the illusion that mike tyson is still in 1986...Put a fork in me, I am done and I hope the heavyweights are to....


    It just sickens me!
    Last edited by spinksjinx; 09-23-2004, 09:14 AM.

  • #2
    Spinks....

    That's a helluva post !
    Excellent. True.

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    • #3
      That was a great post SpinkJinx. I whole heartedly agree with your thoughts 100%. The Heavyweight division is weak in talent and the only reason they get the big money is because of their size. Because if it was measured on talent than we'd see guys like Pac and Morales with Tyson like paychecks.

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      • #4
        i think its kinda unfair to attack the heavies like that.... yes, they are not as talented as smaller fighters, but they train, take risks and fight just like everyone else.... evidently heavey's are what the public wants....

        look at shaq, he's not the most skilled player in the game.... in terms of pure skill, he's in the bottom of the league.... but he's still the attraction and still the most dominant player in the league.... big guys in basketball, dont have to work on the same skills the smaller guys do and because of their size, they also dont have the same ability.... that same theory can be appplied to boxing.... if you dont like the heavies, dont watch them..... why bash them??? what are they really doing wrong to sport??

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        • #5
          Originally posted by guru
          i think its kinda unfair to attack the heavies like that.... yes, they are not as talented as smaller fighters, but they train, take risks and fight just like everyone else.... evidently heavey's are what the public wants....

          look at shaq, he's not the most skilled player in the game.... in terms of pure skill, he's in the bottom of the league.... but he's still the attraction and still the most dominant player in the league.... big guys in basketball, dont have to work on the same skills the smaller guys do and because of their size, they also dont have the same ability.... that same theory can be appplied to boxing.... if you dont like the heavies, dont watch them..... why bash them??? what are they really doing wrong to sport??
          Guru, is your avatar the young chic from "Party of Five", if so she has really grown up! DAMN!

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          • #6
            yep that's her, she is DAM fine!!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by guru
              i think its kinda unfair to attack the heavies like that.... yes, they are not as talented as smaller fighters, but they train, take risks and fight just like everyone else.... evidently heavey's are what the public wants....

              look at shaq, he's not the most skilled player in the game.... in terms of pure skill, he's in the bottom of the league.... but he's still the attraction and still the most dominant player in the league.... big guys in basketball, dont have to work on the same skills the smaller guys do and because of their size, they also dont have the same ability.... that same theory can be appplied to boxing.... if you dont like the heavies, dont watch them..... why bash them??? what are they really doing wrong to sport??

              It's not the heavyweights themselves...it's the way they are overvalued, overpublicized.

              I'm baffled by how people would find them more interesting than the smaller guys..JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BIG.

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              • #8
                Because the average boxing fan finds boxers like the one in your avatar to be exceptionally boring.

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                • #9
                  my guess, it's just that they seem larger than life and the idea is that the fight could end at any time from one punch... the heaveywieght champ is supposedly the baddest man on the planet, so that's who the mainstream want to see....

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                  • #10
                    The casual boxing fan does not want to see 12-rounds of boxing, unless someone goes down or someone gets beat up really bad. The art of boxing is lost on the sports fan who might stop on the fight, but doesn't schedule time to see it.

                    With heavyweights, there's a perception (perhaps a correct one) that there's a greater chance at seeing a knockout.

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