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**dobermann28** · 10-13-2008, 11:51 AM

oooooook??

**Stickman** · 10-13-2008, 11:51 AM

The biggest difference between the two is that Haye fights low, and gives up his height advantage for the most part, while Vitali uses his to fullest advantage.

You can't carry a low guard and fight low, not against bigger guys with even a decent jab.

**rizkybizness** · 10-13-2008, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by dobermann28

oooooook??

and you are?

**BattlingNelson** · 10-13-2008, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by R I Z O

After watching Vitali on saturday, I find it ironic (and hilarious) how you always talk **** about Haye's left hand being too low and having an amateurish style.

The same can be said for Vitali.

Vitali obviously dominated Peter from the opening bell but let's be honest here, we might be singing a different tune if Peter was 5 inches taller. Now, I'm not trying to take anything away from Vitali (it's not his fault he's huge) but the truth is the truth.

Pop quiz rizo: Do you think Vitali's left would be so low if Peter was 5 inches taller?

The reason for the low left (which I for sure didn't like to see) was likely for Vitali to be able to quickly get off with the uppercut.

**The Gully Gad** · 10-13-2008, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by R I Z O

After watching Vitali on saturday, I find it ironic (and hilarious) how you always talk **** about Haye's left hand being too low and having an amateurish style.

The same can be said for Vitali.

Vitali obviously dominated Peter from the opening bell but let's be honest here, we might be singing a different tune if Peter was 5 inches taller. Now, I'm not trying to take anything away from Vitali (it's not his fault he's huge) but the truth is the truth.

**** Riz thats the truth right there..

**rizkybizness** · 10-13-2008, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by BatTheMan

Pop quiz rizo: Do you think Vitali's left would be so low if Peter was 5 inches taller?

The reason for the low left (which I for sure didn't like to see) was likely for Vitali to be able to quickly get off with the uppercut.

Maybe not as low but I do believe Vitali would still carry his hands low if his opponent was taller.

Also, I dont know if it's just me but it seemed like all Vitali throws are arm punches. I didnt see him use any leverage. Granted, even his arm punches are hard but maybe he could've KOd Peter if he had used better punching technique?

**larryx** · 10-13-2008, 11:56 AM

vitali wouldnt keep his hands that low against valuev..he kept them low to protect his body and he knew he could time the head attacks

**The Gully Gad** · 10-13-2008, 11:57 AM

While his style is proper effective theres no doubting that.. it aint pretty

**BattlingNelson** · 10-13-2008, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by R I Z O

Maybe not as low but I do believe Vitali would still carry his hands low if his opponent was taller.

Also, I dont know if it's just me but it seemed like all Vitali throws are arm punches. I didnt see him use any leverage. Granted, even his arm punches are hard but maybe he could've KOd Peter if he had used better punching technique?

It might appear so yes, but you'll have a hard time arguing against Vitali's KO-percentage really.

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