Winky Wright vs. Arthur Abraham Falls Apart For Jan. 24

[egreezy]

lets hope abraham learns soon that he's way down on pavliks list of to do's
and fights winky in january.

that would be hilarious

[VanesBoxing]

lets hope abraham learns soon that he's way down on pavliks list of to do's
and fights winky in january.

say what???

if Pavlik doesnt fight him in 2009 then he will lose alotttt of respect and credit from the fans.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO BIGGER Fight for Pavlik than Abraham at this point.

For those that really know their boxing, we know that Pavlik at this point is nothing without Abraham (even after he beats Hopkins on his crutches) and same with Arthur... doesnt matter who he beats, fans will still ask for Pavlik.

[MWMerlino]

f. u . c . k winky wright.

[ragingvic]

i was gonna post, but you basically took the words right out of my mouth....

usually the BIGGER name turns down the smaller name, in this case its opposite. nobody here knows abraham, so if he thinks turning down this fight will get him closer to a fight with pavlik, he delusional, as are everybody that has posted on this topic thus far.........

kelly pavlik has moved towards the "proving himself" stage, and is at the one where he "wants the biggest fights he can get." by being a nobody, and turning down a bout with a somebody, abraham surely isn't doing himself any favors............

i can see it already.....pavlik vs. j.c or roy jones or paul williams....or even chad dawson........point is, he's got plenty of more options before he gets to AA. u beat a respected and avoided fighter like winky, ppl take notice, u fight nobodies, like marquez, u get a W........

This is not a bash on Pavlik in any way, but if you think Pavlik would be in the "proving himself" stage by fighting Paul williams, then you have no idea what you are talinkg about. Its pretty easy to see that if Pavlik does not get his fight with Joe C, then AA is all hes got. What makes you think Pavlik wants to move up to light heavyweight and fight Chad before cleaning out his divison, which is what him, Jack Leow, and Arum have stated countless times. As far as Roy Jones is concerned, unless he can give Joe an ass whooping (unlikely at this point of his career) nobody would want to see Pavlik fighting "past their primes" Joe's leftovers.

[KILLA RIGHT]

im glad aa should fight kelly or joe...Winky would make it boring

[FLY TY]

This is not a bash on Pavlik in any way, but if you think Pavlik would be in the "proving himself" stage by fighting Paul williams, then you have no idea what you are talinkg about. Its pretty easy to see that if Pavlik does not get his fight with Joe C, then AA is all hes got. What makes you think Pavlik wants to move up to light heavyweight and fight Chad before cleaning out his divison, which is what him, Jack Leow, and Arum have stated countless times. As far as Roy Jones is concerned, unless he can give Joe an ass whooping (unlikely at this point of his career) nobody would want to see Pavlik fighting "past their primes" Joe's leftovers.

my point was that pavlik wants BIG fights......by BIG fights, its no secret that i mean PPV worthy fights, headlining fights........

judging by the FACT that AA is not known in the states as of yet, only to hardcore fans, pavlik will NOT fight him........there are a few other options pavlik has after his fight w/ b-hop. understand???????

the best thing AA could do is to take the winky fight, win, and get himself some kind of recognition by fighting a KNOWN name......until he does that, and as long as pavlik has OTHER options, against guys people in the states have actually heard of, AA can rule out a fight with pavlik.......

im not saying he doesn't deserve it, i'm saying boxing is a BUSINESS, and promoters, as well as the networks look for maximum profit....if you're a big threat, but still relatively unknown, it will be very,very, very hard to get BIG, BIG fights. the best thing you can do is build a name off other names, and by turning down this fight AA is NOT getting himself any closer to pavlik......

its quite simple to understand..........

[FLY TY]

lets hope abraham learns soon that he's way down on pavliks list of to do's
and fights winky in january.

this is what i've been saying.......i don't get why people can't understand this.

since when, in boxing, do fighters get fights b/c the hardcore audience wants it? BIG fighters get other BIG fighters in hopes it will draw a larger audience. AA is still relatively a nobody, there is no way he gets pavlik. period.

[ragingvic]

my point was that pavlik wants BIG fights......by BIG fights, its no secret that i mean PPV worthy fights, headlining fights........

judging by the FACT that AA is not known in the states as of yet, only to hardcore fans, pavlik will NOT fight him........there are a few other options pavlik has after his fight w/ b-hop. understand???????

the best thing AA could do is to take the winky fight, win, and get himself some kind of recognition by fighting a KNOWN name......until he does that, and as long as pavlik has OTHER options, against guys people in the states have actually heard of, AA can rule out a fight with pavlik.......

im not saying he doesn't deserve it, i'm saying boxing is a BUSINESS, and promoters, as well as the networks look for maximum profit....if you're a big threat, but still relatively unknown, it will be very,very, very hard to get BIG, BIG fights. the best thing you can do is build a name off other names, and by turning down this fight AA is NOT getting himself any closer to pavlik......

its quite simple to understand..........

See your original post was more about "proving himself" then the buisness post you just did. The thing is the winner of Roy Jones/Joe C is the only other option for Pavlik, because every other option comes with the same busines negativity as AA. I mean its not like all the casual fans are calling for P wall to fight Pavlik, or Kessler, or Chad, **** or even Winky. So I believe AA is banking on Joe C winning then retiring. Which would leave Pavlik the choice of fighting nobodys in the divison, fighting AA, or moving up to light heavy or SMW to take on Kessler/Chad (neither of which would sell any more then his fight with AA). Its just like Taylor taking the fight with Pavlik, there was no one else so he did it, i mean how many Winkys (how much exposure) had Pavlik fought?

[Fox McCloud]

say what???

if Pavlik doesnt fight him in 2009 then he will lose alotttt of respect and credit from the fans.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO BIGGER Fight for Pavlik than Abraham at this point.

For those that really know their boxing, we know that Pavlik at this point is nothing without Abraham (even after he beats Hopkins on his crutches) and same with Arthur... doesnt matter who he beats, fans will still ask for Pavlik.

Calzaghe vs. Pavlik >>> Pavlik vs. Abraham.

Calzaghe is undefeated, P4P #3, 2 division champion who holds wins over a few big names.

Abraham is like a decreased version of everything I just named. Not P4P ranked, one division champion, and doesn't really have any huge names on his resume.

Other than Calzaghe, Abraham is probably next on Pavlik's list of people to fight I would think... maybe Wright. Neither has really separated themselves from the other.

And... Who is Wright going to fight now?

[KingTito]

That's sucks for Winky. I was actually looking forward to a fight between them.