George Foreman vs Wladimir Klitchsko. Who winz and why?

[-Antonio-]

If you listen to the HBO broadcasts, George had a lot of respect for Wlad and talked about how talented he is. Too bad some people on this site couldn't learn from what George said about Wlad.

Prime George probably KOs Wlad (or just about anyone else - he would have KOed Ali too, but he gassed from the heat and humidity in Zaire). However, Wlad might have a punchers' chance because George did not have an iron chin.

I think Wlad defeats the older 90s version, since Savarese and Shultz almost did, and we know Wlad is a lot better than those two.

Only time Foreman was hurt was after taking countless punches throughout the fight. He would walk through Wlad's initial attack, no problem. We cant say the same for Wlad.

I agree Wlad could outbox the older, slower, more calculated Foreman.

[Derranged]

Yeah, Foreman didn't have an iron chin. Ko'ed 1x in 81 fights while fighting huge punchers....um, ok.

It wasnt iron, but it was damn good. Wladimir would need to land several right hand bombs as soon as possible...

[Guest]

It wasnt iron, but it was damn good. Wladimir would need to land several right hand bombs as soon as possible...

Would he try? Wlad doesn't appear to be that kind of fighter. Maybe in his earlier days he would.
I think he would work the jab and win many rounds, but Foreman would sooner or later lay down the sonic boom and Wlad's windows would get rattled.

I wonder how Vitali would fare. Vitali would probably beat him

[TheGreatA]

It wasnt iron, but it was damn good. Wladimir would need to land several right hand bombs as soon as possible...

I think Foreman's chin was as good as it gets.

He had more confidence in his own durability than just about anyone else, he would just plant his feet and throw bombs with no regards for defense.

Frazier hit Foreman with his best but to no effect.

Lyle did hurt Foreman but to Foreman's defense he was coming off a devastating loss, a year of inactivity and most of all when Lyle really put his mind into it, he could throw bombs with the best of them.
Still, Foreman got up two times to walk through some more punishment and KO'd Lyle.

[The Hammer]

Yeah, Foreman didn't have an iron chin. Ko'ed 1x in 81 fights while fighting huge punchers....um, ok.

Foreman obviously had a good chin, but as we saw in the Lyle fight, it wasn't an iron chin like Tua & McCall.

Oliver McCall had an iron chin. He had a nervous breakdown in the fight with Lewis, a strong puncher. Lewis was landing his best shots at will because Oliver couldn't defend himself because of his mental state, and McCall wasn't even slightly staggered.

If Foreman would have faced Tyson in the late 80s, or Lewis or Bowe in the 90s, he likely would have been knocked out.

[Derranged]

I think Foreman's chin was as good as it gets.

He had more confidence in his own durability than just about anyone else, he would just plant his feet and throw bombs with no regards for defense.

Frazier hit Foreman with his best but to no effect.

Lyle did hurt Foreman but to Foreman's defense he was coming off a devastating loss, a year of inactivity and most of all when Lyle really put his mind into it, he could throw bombs with the best of them.
Still, Foreman got up two times to walk through some more punishment and KO'd Lyle.

I guess you right.. Like I said before, Wladimir doesnt beat prime Foreman.

[Guest]

I think Foreman's chin was as good as it gets.

He had more confidence in his own durability than just about anyone else, he would just plant his feet and throw bombs with no regards for defense.

Frazier hit Foreman with his best but to no effect.

Lyle did hurt Foreman but to Foreman's defense he was coming off a devastating loss, a year of inactivity and most of all when Lyle really put his mind into it, he could throw bombs with the best of them.
Still, Foreman got up two times to walk through some more punishment and KO'd Lyle.

I always thought Lyle was underrated. He had his moments but he could be maddeningly inconsistent.
He beat some pretty good guys but never seemed to win the big one.
His prison time and starting so late were big factors.

[Guest]

Foreman obviously had a good chin, but as we saw in the Lyle it wasn't iron chin like Tua & McCall.

Oliver McCall had an iron chin. He had a nervous breakdown in the fight with Lewis, a strong puncher. Lewis was landing his best shots at will because Oliver couldn't defend himself because of his mental state, and McCall wasn't even slightly staggered.

If Foreman would have faced Tyson in the late 80s, or Lewis or Bowe in the 90s, he likely would have been knocked out.

Oliver McCall is from my hometown, Chicago.
McCall was Tyson's sparring partner and was never knocked down in over 300 rounds of sparring with him. Probably more.

[KESSLER]

I'm a huuuge Wlad fan, but I've got to go with Foreman by TKO.

You still suck for putting in "Foreman KO's him with a jab". That wouldn't happen, ****ing moron. But, anyway, Foreman winS!

[TheGreatA]

I always thought Lyle was underrated. He had his moments but he could be maddeningly inconsistent.
He beat some pretty good guys but never seemed to win the big one.
His prison time and starting so late were big factors.

Lyle was very good at countering off the ropes. He looked like a typical brawler but he was actually a very good counter puncher.

He had handled Shavers in the same way and went into the Foreman fight fully confident that he would pull the upset. For a moment it seemed like he would.

You could say that for the majority of those fights, Lyle outpointed Ali, outslugged Foreman and outpunched Shavers.


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