Regarding Samuel Peter's Weight

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  • paul750
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    Regarding Samuel Peter's Weight

    There seems to be some different views on this issue. I personally don't think a guy that weight can go through 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 hard rounds with Klitschko and win. If we look at some past and current champions, we'll see that boxers weighing that much usually don't do very well. Let's look at some belt holders' weights from the past and currently:

    Lennox Lewis: Usually in the 240s
    Wladimir Klitschko: Usually in the 240s
    Rid**** Bowe: Usually in the 240s
    John Ruiz: 220's-241 tops
    Ray Mercer: 220's-late 230s
    Ruslan Chagaev: 220s-230s

    History shows that fighters weighing as heavy as Peter don't do too well. Peter has of course managed to win the title at 250lbs, but it was against an over the hill and chinny Maskaev. Most of the time, when a guy who weighs this kind of weight comes up against a top drawer fighter, they lose. It's a fact. That's all.
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    #2
    Only fight Peter lost was when he weighed 243 vs Wlad

    shutup

    He looks like a rock

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    • Silencers
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      #3
      I don't really like a guy that is 6'0 weighing 250+ pounds, naturally stamina is a concern but maybe he did something in training that helps his stamina.

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      • sparked_85
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        #4
        Originally posted by Silencers
        I don't really like a guy that is 6'0 weighing 250+ pounds, naturally stamina is a concern but maybe he did something in training that helps his stamina.
        Yeah any BMI chart will tell you Peter is overweight.

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        • King Jaffe Joffer
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          #5
          most heavyweights are overweight

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          • BrooklynBomber
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            #6
            Originally posted by sparked_85
            Yeah any BMI chart will tell you Peter is overweight.
            They are not a good indicator for a competative athlete, since they dont take into account the muscle mass.


            However, as history showed, a lot of muscle mass in boxing is not very good.
            More muscle == more work for heart.

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            • sparked_85
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              #7
              Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
              They are not a good indicator for a competative athlete, since they dont take into account the muscle mass.


              However, as history showed, a lot of muscle mass in boxing is not very good.
              More muscle == more work for heart.
              Tis true works the other way too I'm sure boxers like P,Williams and Breidis Prescott are underweight.

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              • Stickman
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                They key to endurance, which is probably the most important factor in this sport, is balance. Muscle tone, cardio/vascular system, both have to be perfect. If your cardio is decent, but you're pushing around an extra 20 pounds of muscle, you're going to gas after mid rounds, sooner if you waste alot of energy trying to put your opponent down quick. Additionally, you won't be able to recover as much between rounds and you'll fade quick, late. That's why boxers should spend at least 45 minutes on strenuous cardio workouts every day, whether it's swimming laps (best), running (not jogging, that doesn't do ****), whatever. When you think about it, 45 minutes isn't much time, and while it can be agony for that short time, it's well worth it. Heavyweights, for some reason, don't seem to get that...how many heavyweights in the past 10 years have we seen that could go 12 hard rounds? Not many, that's for sure. Chris Byrd, the Klitchkos, a few others, that's probably it.

                Peter, for whatever reason (probably in love with his own power), he puts on extra muscle to increase his power, and spends what appears to be a minimal amount of time on conditioning. Against Klitchko, this is exactly the wrong thing to do. He should've toned up, slimmed down, worked on improving his speed, footwork and upper body movement.

                I give him maybe a 5% chance of winning this by KO, and exactly a zero% chance of winning by decision. Vitali has too tough a beard for me to believe SloPoke Sam is going to catch him with the right **** and put him out, and Vitali is obviously better conditioned than Peter, making the likelihood of Peter making it 12 with enough left to win rounds in the latter half utterly non-existant. Couple that with the fact that Vitali has never even been behind on a set of scorecards....Peter, taking Vitali by decision? If that happens, you'd better get right with your religion, 'cause Jesus Christ is about to make his second appearance. I give Peter WAY, WAY better chances of knocking Vitali out, and even that I only allow him about a 5% possibility.

                When this fight is over, I doubt anybody will pay much attention to this particular post, so I probably won't get the chance to say "I told ya so" (one of the few, true delights in my life), so I'm saying it now. TOLDJA, MUTHER****ERS!

                P.S.
                I said that Peter has a 5% chance of winning by KO...I could be low on this, by as much as another 5%, so it could be a 10% chance of a Peter win. IF that happens, someone ought to bring this back up so I an admit how wrong I was, since I haven't had that happen in a long, long time.

                My OFFICIAL predicion for this fight: Vitali by beatdown/KO, inside of 5. This won't go late, not a chance. Peter will keep coming forward until he's been badly beaten and gets stopped. He doesn't really have any other way to fight, which will, unfortunately (for Peter, at last) put him exactly where Vitali wants him. Standing in front of him, throwing jabs so he can be countered and KO'd.

                I also want to go on record saying that I'd prefer it if Peter didn't get obliterated in this fight. He shows alot of promise/potential, and I believe he's good for the division. If he's beaten too badly, he'll most likely never rise to the top of the division again.

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