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  • Sox8055
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    #21
    Originally posted by warp1432
    Mjares beat him in a rematch. Mijares was like 17 at the time too. Mijares has beaten way better competition since then (and donaire)

    Mijares is the obvious pick here. Hozumi Hasegawa I don't see losing at Bantamweight.

    Roman Gonzalez won't be losing anytime soon either.
    I agree, Mijares looks like the best complete Boxer Mexico has had since Sanchez...

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    • AztecWanker
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      #22
      Originally posted by Grrrr
      Mijares should beat montiel and donaire to be considered beating everyone in thier weight class...
      if he does that then mijares = top 3 p4p say he also moves up and wins a belt, then p4p 1 or 2 no question

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      • Grrrr
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        #23
        This poor guy luis maldonado(who has a draw with mijares) faced darchinyan, montiel, donaire and was easily destroyed.. Im curious as to what would happen to mijares if he himself faced them...

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        • Ramamaiden
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          #24
          Mijares i think will have a walk in the park against vic, and then the obvious choice should be Montiel, to unify the 4 belts. That should be a great fight but still thin Mijares should win it. And finally Donaire....wow....i just cant wait to that fights to happen xD.....

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          • BennyST
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            #25
            I can't see many fighters at the moment that would fit into that category. There might be a few such as Mijares but I could still see him having a difficult fight against Donaire and one which could easily go either way.

            Pac is definitely beatable at lightweight by quite a few fighters. Diaz, Campbell, Marquez, Guzman etc etc are all very hard fights that could go any which way. Above lightweight I would see him struggling against any of the top guys. I don't think he would have a chance against Bradley, Hatton etc. I think PAc has already that he is great by moving through the divisions he has though, so not doing well above lightweight isn't exactly surprising. Very few fighters have ever done well more then 20, 30, 40 pounds above their starting weight.

            Calzaghe is one of the guys that could have beaten everyone around his weight class and has shown that with his recent wins. He is retiring very soon though so he doesn't really come into discussion too much here.

            Funnily enough, apart from his recent ******ity, I see Guzman beating most fighters from his starting weight to where he is currently campaigning. I think most lightweights would have a very difficult time with him. He is one guy that could do it, but, what is in store for his future seems uncertain so we might not know what will happen for a while with him.

            Pavlik has some hard challengers in and around his weight. Abraham could be a difficult fight though I see Pavlik beating him, but going up to SMW or even LHW and fighting the top guys in Kessler, Mundine, Dawson could be too much. I think we'll find out how well he can adjust after his fight with B-Hop. He should win it, but we'll shall get to see at least some difficulty posed by B-Hop which could tell us how he might fare against the younger prime guys in Kessler, Dawson etc.

            The prospects coming through in the lower weights are quite promising and there are a few that could very well end up dominating their respective divisions in the future. That is still some time off before we know though, so not much point in commenting on it.

            The WW division is impossible to say with any degree of accuracy. Such different fighters throughout it that the top guys could all beat each other with no one gaining any true ascendancy. If Clottey could get moving he is the one guy I could see beating most of the other top fighters. He has the skill to beat Cotto, Williams, Berto and Marg. Whether he will though is, of course, another matter completely. I do think he could though, whereas I see Marg struggling with Williams but maybe beating Cotto again. Berto, with some more experience, could beat Cotto and Cotto might even be able to beat Williams. It's a very difficult division to predict with any certainty. I would take Clottey over most guys at the moment though.

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            • warp1432
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              #26
              Originally posted by Grrrr
              This poor guy luis maldonado(who has a draw with mijares) faced darchinyan, montiel, donaire and was easily destroyed.. Im curious as to what would happen to mijares if he himself faced them...
              No one has seen that fight. Mijares could have been robbed due to the bull**** judging he's had lately or he could have actually gotten a close fight with Maldonado. Either way, Mijares isn't the same fighter he was 4 years ago. He's a lot better.

              Munoz would kick the **** out of Maldonado, hell even Navarro would.

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              • Dambala
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                #27
                Kelly Pavlik at middleweight
                Cristian Mijares at jr. bantam
                Ivan Calderon at jr. flyweight (unbeatable as a strawweight)
                Juanma Lopez at jr. feather

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                  #28
                  Ivan Calderon never seemed to lose in two weight divisions.

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                  • Silencers
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    Ivan Calderon never seemed to lose in two weight divisions.
                    He's got Solis there though and I doubt he beats Donaire if he moves up.

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                    • warp1432
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      Ivan Calderon never seemed to lose in two weight divisions.
                      His fight wtih Ronald Barrera was pretty close. Yukita Niida had beat Barrera pretty soundly and Niida was just knocked out by Gonzalez.

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