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  • Eaner0919
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    #11
    Originally posted by Terrible...
    but he cant take Hamed's power and he get hit a lot and he is not cute enough to do what Mab did he is all guns blazing that gets him canvased with Naz
    But at the same time Morales is a harder puncher than Barrera so whats to say that when he landed Hamed didnt go down? He did go down from shots from Kelley who wasnt known as a hard puncher.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Makavelli
      hamed never wanted to tango with any of the big 3 at the time...the only reason he took on MAB was because he was coming off a loss to El Terrible..


      with that said, it would be foolish to dscount the punchers chance of Hamed...he would always be in the fight...however, there have been stretches in EM's bouts, especially at 130, where he relied on his underrated boxing skill...the basic jab, one-two combos that MAB employed could also be replicated, IMO, by EM...if he stayed loyal to that gameplan, i can see him winning a points victory
      take a look how Kelly,Chi,McCullough,Barrera,Pac,hit Morales and tell me he is taking shots like that off Hamed

      no chance

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        #13
        Originally posted by Terrible...
        take a look how Kelly,Chi,McCullough,Barrera,Pac,hit Morales and tell me he is taking shots like that off Hamed

        no chance

        kelly, chi, pocket rocket, MAB and PAC were also fundamentally better than hamed...the only time he would be able to get off is to get into a full exchange against EM...and although he had power, going toe to toe with Morales isnt really a wise thing to do...especially in his prime

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          #14
          Originally posted by Makavelli
          kelly, chi, pocket rocket, MAB and PAC were also fundamentally better than hamed...the only time he would be able to get off is to get into a full exchange against EM...and although he had power, going toe to toe with Morales isnt really a wise thing to do...especially in his prime
          Chi was a straight ahead brawler and McCullough was conventional but he was not what i wouold call fundamentally better than hamed

          who was easier to hit McCullough or Hamed there is your answer

          i think its more foolish for Morales to go toe to toe no one ever stayed upright who went toe to toe with Hamed

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            #15
            Originally posted by Terrible...
            Chi was a straight ahead brawler and McCullough was conventional but he was not what i wouold call fundamentally better than hamed

            who was easier to hit McCullough or Hamed there is your answer

            i think its more foolish for Morales to go toe to toe no one ever stayed upright who went toe to toe with Hamed


            well, i suppose we can agree to disagree...i think EM-Hamed would be a bigger mismatch than Hamed-MAB

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              #16
              Originally posted by Makavelli
              well, i suppose we can agree to disagree...i think EM-Hamed would be a bigger mismatch than Hamed-MAB
              i disagree strongly and i dont know how you come to that conclusion when Mab was a smarter fighter and got hit less than Morales and Mab was the better Boxer

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                #17
                I think even with his granite chin, Morales would have been in trouble if he went toe-to-toe with Hamed and tried trading bombs.

                However, don't forget that Erik was pretty disciplined in the first fight with Pac. Course, there were certain points when he couldn't help himself and let the machismo take over, but if a younger Erik fought with the discipline of Pac 1, then I think he takes it.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  i disagree strongly and i dont know how you come to that conclusion when Mab was a smarter fighter and got hit less than Morales and Mab was the better Boxer
                  Because you are not giving credit that Erik was a smart boxer in his own right and could pick apart fighters from the outside where he could extend his punches mroeso than he could with Barrera who kept inside of his range. Hamed was primarily an unorthodox boxer who largely kept himself on the outside.

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                    #19
                    I think EM coulda beat him, but not as handily as MAB did. EM would slug a lot more and get hurt in this fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Terrible...
                      i disagree strongly and i dont know how you come to that conclusion when Mab was a smarter fighter and got hit less than Morales and Mab was the better Boxer

                      its simple, i jus think that Morales' boxing skills were very underrated...they are easily overlooked because of his tendency to brawl...he had a great jab and worked off that jab very well...and since you like to use Marco as the barometer, dont forget that their trilogy is separated by slim margins..they weren't THAT far off as far as skill set

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