Roy Joy and Toney

[abadger]

I find it ridiculous Joe Calzaghe never faced prime Roy and Toney at 168. Imagine how hot it would have been if Hopkins moved up into the fray as well, could have seen some great fights that would have made them all a lot of money

In Toney's case I think it had a lot to do with him being a cruiserweight before Joe Calzaghe even won his first world title. Roy too was at LHW before this point, though a fight at least could feasibly have been made at LHW with Joe going up. If you're looking for fighters it is ridiculous that Roy didn't face at 168 the look no further than Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins and Gerald McLellan, all of whom actually shared the division with Roy. What makes it even more ridiculous is that at 168 Roy was perceived to be in need of fighting some good opponents, but for some reason these guys never even came onto the radar.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I find it ridiculous Joe Calzaghe never faced prime Roy and Toney at 168. Imagine how hot it would have been if Hopkins moved up into the fray as well, could have seen some great fights that would have made them all a lot of money

I find it ridiculous Roy, Toney and Hopkins never faced prime Joe Calzaghe at 168.

[Sealhound]

Yer ok I stand corrected on that, I forgot how old Toney and RJJ are lol. RJJ and Eubank, I'd have paid to see that lol.

[Sealhound]

I find it ridiculous Roy, Toney and Hopkins never faced prime Joe Calzaghe at 168.

Calzaghe would have been fighting infront of 8 dogs and a selection of ragged cats for his entire career if Lacy hadn't gone all the way over to Wales with his Hype and Money.

[dfwtx]

if joy was meant for joe

roy
james
joe

[bsrizpac]

In Toney's case I think it had a lot to do with him being a cruiserweight before Joe Calzaghe even won his first world title. Roy too was at LHW before this point, though a fight at least could feasibly have been made at LHW with Joe going up. If you're looking for fighters it is ridiculous that Roy didn't face at 168 the look no further than Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins and Gerald McLellan, all of whom actually shared the division with Roy. What makes it even more ridiculous is that at 168 Roy was perceived to be in need of fighting some good opponents, but for some reason these guys never even came onto the radar.

Been over most of these, but there is video of Merchant commented on Steve Collins turning down an offer to fight Roy Jones Jr by pricing himself out of the fight. It's in the commentary before the Roy vs. Lucas fight. Stop bringing tit up.

[bsrizpac]

I find it ridiculous Roy, Toney and Hopkins never faced prime Joe Calzaghe at 168.

That's because you don't watch boxing. You watch Joe Calzaghe.

[abadger]

Been over most of these, but there is video of Merchant commented on Steve Collins turning down an offer to fight Roy Jones Jr by pricing himself out of the fight. It's in the commentary before the Roy vs. Lucas fight. Stop bringing tit up.

I have no idea. I wasn't accusing anyone. Maybe Collins was being ridiculous and not Jones. Who knows?

[bsrizpac]

I have no idea. I wasn't accusing anyone. Maybe Collins was being ridiculous and not Jones. Who knows?

I mean unless Merchant and HBO were in league with Roy to help him duck credible challengers at the time. Oh wait- before every one of his fights around then pretty much all you heard was them (ESPECIALLY Merchant) talking about how people thought Roy should fight better challengers, etc etc. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Collins being ridiculous as is evidenced by the price out. Collins had no name to even try to demand such a price out. But there you have it.

And yet, all I hear about is how Collins retired because "Roy jones wouldn't fight him".

PS. Gerald was pretty much in a COMA before the fight had a chance to be talked about for real. It's shameful to bring him up.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Been over most of these, but there is video of Merchant commented on Steve Collins turning down an offer to fight Roy Jones Jr by pricing himself out of the fight. It's in the commentary before the Roy vs. Lucas fight. Stop bringing tit up.

This is bollox. The fight is readily available on youtube and all Merchant does is crack jokes and rip the piss out of Jones' opposition.

This is another bszrizpac "fact" like the one about Joe being scared of Roy