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  • WLAD OWNS
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    #11
    Originally posted by darkstar777
    Eddie Chambers is the best American heavyweight.

    He could of beaten Alexander Povetkin if he actually fought back, but I think he had some issues coming into the fight, so he gave the fight away. Chambers is definitely a better boxer than Povetkin. If there is a rematch Chambers would beat him soundly next time, that I'm sure of.

    Chambers would beat Arreola, Walker, and Kevin Johnson too.
    Chambers fought the best he could against Povetkin.

    Chambers started off well, but he became overwhelmed by Povetkin's pressure and workrate...Chambers went into a shell in the later round because he was hurt and worn down by the accumulation of punches...Chambers didn't have the heart or toughness to man up and trade punches with the tougher, hungrier Povetkin.

    Povetkin was very sick and he still clearly won the fight.

    Chambers definitely has the skill, but I don't think he has the will....He seems to be another one of those American heavyweights that lacks the hunger and determination to take their game to the next level.


    With all that being said, Chambers is probably the best American heavyweight right now, followed by Thompson, Brewster and Arreola.
    Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 09-30-2008, 11:28 PM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
      Chambers fought the best he could against Povetkin.

      Chambers started off well, but he became overwhelmed by Povetkin's pressure and workrate...Chambers went into a shell in the later round because he was hurt and worn down by the accumulation of punches...Chmabers didn't have the heart or toughness to man up and trade punches with the tougher, hungrier Povetkin.

      Povetkin was very sick and he still clearly won the fight.

      Chambers definitely has the skill, but I don't think he has the will....He seems to be another one of those American heavyweights that lacks the hunger and determination to take their game to the next level.


      With all that being said, Chambers is probably the best American heavyweight right now, followed by Thompson, Brewster and Arreola.
      No he didn't fight his best, watch the fight again, Chambers was kicking Povetkin's ass the first four rounds and after that just suddenly stopped fighting. Even when Buddy McGirt and his dad were screaming at him at the end of the 8th round telling him to throw more punches, what did he do the next round? Barley did anything and just threw 9 punches. That tells me Chambers didn't want to win, if Chambers WANTED to win the fight he would of. Chambers plan was to give the fight away because he was a heavy underdog and wanted to cover the bookings, why else would he give up after 4 rounds?

      Chambers problem is his will and confidence, he most likely listened to the criticism against him, which he can easily overcome by wanting to win.

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        #13
        Originally posted by darkstar777
        No he didn't fight his best, watch the fight again, Chambers was kicking Povetkin's ass the first four rounds and after that just suddenly stopped fighting. Even when Buddy McGirt and his dad were screaming at him at the end of the 8th round telling him to throw more punches, what did he do the next round? Barley did anything and just threw 9 punches. That tells me Chambers didn't want to win, if Chambers WANTED to win the fight he would of. Chambers plan was to give the fight away because he was a heavy underdog and wanted to cover the bookings, why else would he give up after 4 rounds?

        Chambers problem is his will and confidence, he most likely listened to the criticism against him, which he can easily overcome by wanting to win.
        ....are you kidding me??

        Chambers got his ass whooped by the tougher, hungrier fighter Povetkin.

        Povetkin would beatdown the mental midget Chambers again in a rematch.

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          #14
          Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
          ....are you kidding me??

          Chambers got his ass whooped by the tougher, hungrier fighter Povetkin.

          Povetkin would beatdown the mental midget Chambers again in a rematch.
          Povetkin is overrated, he isn't as skilled as some people think he is. And Chambers actually HURT Povetkin during the fight, if Chambers wanted to fight back, Povetkin would of even looked more bruised up. If I had to rate some of the heavyweight prospects today this is what it would be like.

          Chambers>Povetkin>Aarreola>Travis Walker>Kevin Johnson.

          I want to see Chambers vs Aarreola next.
          Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-01-2008, 12:10 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by darkstar777
            Povetkin is overrated, he isn't as skilled as some people think he is. And Chambers actually HURT Povetkin during the fight, if Chambers wanted to fight back, Povetkin would of even looked more bruised up. If I had to rate some of the heavyweight prospects today this is what it would be like.

            Chambers>>Povetkin>Aareola>Travis Walker>Kevin Johnson.

            I want to see Chambers vs Aaerola next.
            Chambers NEVER hurt Povetkin....Povetkin walked through those shots like they were nothing.

            Best prospects:

            Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Boytsov >>> Chambers, Arreola, Walker

            Eastern European heavyweights >>>>>>>> American heavyweights

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              #16
              Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
              Chambers NEVER hurt Povetkin....Povetkin walked through those shots like they were nothing.

              Best prospects:

              Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Boytsov >>> Chambers, Arreola, Walker

              Eastern European heavyweights >>>>>>>> American heavyweights
              There you go again, East Euro rules the world!!!! America is second to best European fighters. From Russian to Ukraine to Armenia to Kazakstahn (the best) and finally turkmenistan (*******s). Man Povetkin ain't ****, Wlad will show that. A rematch with Eddie Povetkin would be done! Eddie goes on about how he could have that fight back and so forth and oh man I wish there was a rematch! Eddie didn't get hurt at all in that fight. He was hittin Povetkin wit big shots in the early rounds and then sixth round came along and Eddie mentally broke down. Same with JT vs. Spinks or De La Hoya vs. Mayweather. Sometimes fighters play a mental war with themselves and don't throw punches when they want to, Chambers is physically sound but mentally he need work.

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              • ferocity
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                #17
                Originally posted by boxasmash
                as i said.

                arreola is overrated, he is yet to fight a top european boxer.
                lmao, how times have changed

                I hope Arreola is the first fighter of Mexican Heritage that wins a title, people laugh when they say a Mexican Heavyweight Champion but now, it can possably happen. Hell, in the 90's no one every thought there would be so many White Champions, much less one that is dominating the division.

                If, Peters gets by Vitali, i think Arreola's best chance is to go after Peters.

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                • WLAD OWNS
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dmaclv
                  There you go again, East Euro rules the world!!!! America is second to best European fighters. From Russian to Ukraine to Armenia to Kazakstahn (the best) and finally turkmenistan (*******s). Man Povetkin ain't ****, Wlad will show that. A rematch with Eddie Povetkin would be done! Eddie goes on about how he could have that fight back and so forth and oh man I wish there was a rematch! Eddie didn't get hurt at all in that fight. He was hittin Povetkin wit big shots in the early rounds and then sixth round came along and Eddie mentally broke down. Same with JT vs. Spinks or De La Hoya vs. Mayweather. Sometimes fighters play a mental war with themselves and don't throw punches when they want to, Chambers is physically sound but mentally he need work.
                  Like I said before, Eddie has the skill, but he don't have the will.

                  That's the problems with your American heavyweights...your fighters have gone soft from living in an easy laid back country where you get spoon fed and can get anything you want....You American big men lack the hunger, will and determination needed to be successful.

                  Lamon Brewster is the only American heavyweight left that has a big heart, skill and true will to win....the rest of the american HW's will never amount to anything.


                  Our Eastern European heavyweights are stronger, hungrier, more determined and have the Will to win...We will be dominating the division for a very, very long time.
                  Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 10-01-2008, 02:11 AM.

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                  • ragingvic
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                    #19
                    Arreola is the Edison Miranda of HW, he is exciting and fun to watch. As soon as he steps in the ring with a proven/experienced fighter its game over for him.

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                    • Haterfree
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                      #20
                      I need to see him step up in competition because I never took Witherspoon seriously.

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