Jermain Taylor: "I Want To Make an Impact at 168"

[PoetryInMotion]

A little sensitive are we?

Did it LOOK like I was comparing Taylor to Calzaghe? I was referring to each of their approaches to their next fights.

I wasn't the one who brought up the Welshing Wonder in the first place.

And when Calzaghe has the balls to fight Pavlik, ONCE much less twice, and not use smoke and mirrors bull**** to make his fight selections look legit, then maybe he will have half the integrity and character of Taylor.

Preach my brother, preach.

[Zocalo]

Drik Diggler is an idiot... don't mind him. He has an unhealthy affection towards Joe and feels the need to interject him in every conversation.

[PoetryInMotion]

My Dad> Your Dad

Your Jokes = Gay Jokes

[PoetryInMotion]

Interestingly enough, that guy who beat Taylor twice is the same fighter Calzaghe is dodging. Also, interesting is that Taylor beat the best name(B-Hop) on Calzaghe's resume twice and he did it when B-Hop was far more game. You better pray to god Taylor doesn't fight and beat Kessler b/c then Calzaghe will be able to officially retire having been owned by Taylor's accomplishments. Oh yeah.. btw? This is a tune up fight. You're probably familiar with that as it best describes Almost every single fight on Calzaghe's resume. The only difference is Calzaghe didn't have the stones to be truthful enough to call them Tune up fights.

Preach my brother, preach.

[dstew]

Explain Calzaghe's lack of integrity in such a way that you keep your own. By that I mean show me your evidence of Calzaghe's lack of integrity that does not require you to make a choice to believe his critics as opposed to him.

The fact that in the above interview, starting at the 6:30 mark, when Joe is asked if he beats Hopkins and has one more match, if fighting Roy Jones Jr would be a letdown, Joe says:

"Yeah, probably, because Roy Jones was a great fighter but he's not a great fighter any more. He's been knocked out twice in his last something like five fights, so I don't see that being a motivating fight for me either. After this fight the number one fight would be maybe Kelly Pavlik/Jermain Taylor, the winner of them two. They're excellent fighters and they're boxing I think next month, so that's a possibility"

Straight from your idol's mouth. That was recorded less than 10 months ago. Doesn't sound anything like the tune he's singing lately, does it???

Now please... PLEASE... tell me how questioning the integrity of a weasel like this somehow brings my own integrity into question?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Listen fruitcake, nobody asked you too converse and you take yourself WAY to seriously. I have a lot respect for Calzaghe, RJJ, Taylor, Pavlik and BHop. Respect does not have to be mutually exclusive. They are all great atheletes and boxers in their own right and I am ****ing tired of reading fanboy winers spew bull**** all over these forums anytime they think their favorite fighter ois being disrespected. It was a ****ing joke, you bit, get over it. Appreciate the sport and all of the great fighters it has to offer. Wanker.

Like I said, it was funny the first time but you were really kicking, practically shagging a dead horse by repeating the same "Joe told me" schtick.

Keep it interesting otherwise I get bored. Tosser.

[dstew]

Taylor would have to win a title and make 21 defences, then move up in weight and beat the man there to come close to matching Joe's accomplishments.

Calzaghe's entire career have been tune ups? Well I guess he wasnt privelliged enough to fight the likes of Cory Spinks or Gary Lockett on HBO in megafights.

Calzaghe had the stones to call out every big name around. He never had the options that Taylor gets having achieved far less.

Taylor may have to make 21 straight title defenses "to come close to matching Joe's accomplishments," as you put it, but could more easily surpass Joe's legacy simply by taking and winning tough fights against the best opponents he can get his hands on. Even if he loses a couple in the process, if he wins his share, history will hold him in equal or greater esteem than a guy who, at the end of the day, will go down as not having fought the best names on his resume when they were anywhere near their primes.

Amusing that you will make fun of Taylor all day for fighting Lacy, and then use Cory Spinks as an example of a bull**** megafight that Taylor fought, not considering that Spinks, boring style and all, is TWICE the boxer Lacy is, and one of Calzaghe's BIGGEST megafights was against... Jeff Lacy!!!

So I call bull**** on saying Calzaghe wasn't "privileged enough to fight the likes of Cory Spinks or Gary Lockett on HBO in megafights." Or was the Calzaghe/Lacy fight on Showtime???

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Taylor may have to make 21 straight title defenses "to come close to matching Joe's accomplishments," as you put it, but could more easily surpass Joe's legacy simply by taking and winning tough fights against the best opponents he can get his hands on. Even if he loses a couple in the process, if he wins his share, history will hold him in equal or greater esteem than a guy who, at the end of the day, will go down as not having fought the best names on his resume when they were anywhere near their primes.

Amusing that you will make fun of Taylor all day for fighting Lacy, and then use Cory Spinks as an example of a bull**** megafight that Taylor fought, not considering that Spinks, boring style and all, is TWICE the boxer Lacy is, and one of Calzaghe's BIGGEST megafights was against... Jeff Lacy!!!

So I call bull**** on saying Calzaghe wasn't "privileged enough to fight the likes of Cory Spinks or Gary Lockett on HBO in megafights." Or was the Calzaghe/Lacy fight on Showtime???

All hypothetical. I wouldnt be surprised to see Taylor fight Lacy, then Winky again or even Jones then retire. He just doesnt seem to care about the sport, I definitely dont see him having the longevity and consistency of Calzaghe. But of course thats hypothetical too.


Taylor has been HBO's Golden Boy from the start. He was given a crack at Hopkins after what? 20 fights or so. Whereas Calzaghe had to call him out for a decade to finally get him in the ring. Big fights have been offered to Taylor on a plate and hes been turning some down. Joe wasnt offered the same luxury.

Cory Spinks is twice the boxer Lacy is? Hmmm so is Juan Manuel Marquez. Lacy just happens to be twice the size.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Now you are just emberassing yourself. You really want to go and compare the winky and Bhop that faught Taylor with the Eubank, Bhop, and RYJJ that faught/will fight Calz. Please stop this right now.

So Bhop and Winky were both in their primes when they fought Taylor?

But BHop, Eubank and Roy are all shot when they fight Calzaghe?

Perfectly reasonable logic.

[dstew]

Taylor has been HBO's Golden Boy from the start. He was given a crack at Hopkins after what? 20 fights or so. Whereas Calzaghe had to call him out for a decade to finally get him in the ring. Big fights have been offered to Taylor on a plate and hes been turning some down. Joe wasnt offered the same luxury.

Cory Spinks is twice the boxer Lacy is? Hmmm so is Juan Manuel Marquez. Lacy just happens to be twice the size.

If Joe wanted Hopkins badly enough before 2008, I'm sure he could've gotten him. Call Taylor HBO's Golden Boy all you want, but you can't make me believe that they wouldn't have marketed a good looking, quick, white fighter from the UK as well or better than a black kid from a bad neighborhood in a non-boxing town. This is all hypothetical too, but you cannot say with any degree of certainty what Joe was offered and what he was not offered.

Irrelevant hyperbole about JMM. Spinks was fighting at Jr. Middle a year before he moved up to fight Taylor. Sure there was a size difference, but not enough to warrant bringing up JMM. If anything Spinks' size made him afraid of Taylor enough to run around the ring the entire night, making Taylor look awful, whereas Lacy's size made him foolishly brave enough to stand there and get hit all night by Calzaghe, making Joe look sensational.