Jermain Taylor: "I Want To Make an Impact at 168"

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Im sure you believe that version of old ass Eubank would humiliate everyone fighting today at 160-175 with the exception of Calzaghe.

No. I actually think Taylor would do better against Eubank than Pavlik for starters. Like Ive said a million times, styles make fights.

[abadger]

I'm not taking anything away from those guys as top class fighters or saying that they would not have had a chance against Pavlik, just that I would favour Pavlik strongly if he was to fight those guys at the time at which Calzaghe did. Obviously you cannot discount a guy like Eubank especially but I would have expected Pavlik to get the better of him at the time Joe fought him. Just my opinion though obviously.

I would favour him against Mitchell and Woodhall unquestionably, with the proviso that he'd better not get hit flush by Mitchell. I would probably favour him over Eubank because Steve Collins beat him twice by doing more, though Eubank performed better against Calzaghe than he did Collins and likewise probably favour him over Reid, though that one, without question, would be a tough fight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I would favour him against Mitchell and Woodhall unquestionably, with the proviso that he'd better not get hit flush by Mitchell. I would probably favour him over Eubank because Steve Collins beat him twice by doing more, though Eubank performed better against Calzaghe than he did Collins and likewise probably favour him over Reid, though that one, without question, would be a tough fight.

Theres a clear difference between saying you'd favour someone and saying "PAVLIK KOS ALL DOSE BUMS LOLZ PWN!!!"

Thanks for bringing some perspective to proceedings Badge.

[dstew]

Theres a clear difference between saying you'd favour someone and saying "PAVLIK KOS ALL DOSE BUMS LOLZ PWN!!!"

Thanks for bringing some perspective to proceedings Badge.

I can't believe I'm giving abadger credit for anything, but you could learn a thing or two from him about curbing your addiction.

[bsrizpac]

Yes.....when you should be fighting Jones, Hopkins or Toney but you cant get them in the ring, i would think it'd be frustrating and cause a lack of motivation if you have to step in the ring with Tocker Pudwill instead.

Which in a way, makes it even more surprising that Joe wasnt caught on an off night

I love how you subtly imply that all those guys ducked Joe. Just pathetic.

[bsrizpac]

Do periods of inactivity mean fighters can't fight?

Chris Eubank was a world class boxer, you are right he was past his best, but you talk as though this means he would have no chance against Pavlik, this is simply not true. The fights Eubank lost prior to Joe were against Steve Collins, another world class boxer, and he pushed Joe hard. Therefore he would have a chance against Pavlik.

Byron Mitchell was a hard puncher, the only man ever to hurt Calzaghe, most other fighters would have been stopped by that shot, Pavlik included. I actually think Joe realised he didn't want to be in the ring with this guy long and that was what caused him to go after him like a buzzsaw.

Robin Reid was good enough to give Calzaghe his closest ever fight. That being so, is it objective to claim he would have no chance against Pavlik? I don't think so at all, I think he would have a good chance.

Richie Woodhall was a good fighter, technically very sound and would fight until the end. Of those I listed, Woodhall is the biggest reach, but that does not mean the result is a foregone conclusion, Kelly Pavlik is still relatively inexperienced and untested.

The common thread I detect in your posts is that you presume Kelly Pavlik is already of fully proven status in boxing, alongside Calzaghe. This is simply not so. As I have repeatedly stated, he owes almost all of his reputation to victories over Jermain Taylor. Were he to fight any of those guys at MW tomorrow, (disregarding their true weight) any one of them would be his toughest defence and his second toughest opponent ever, if we make the assumption that Jermain Taylor really is better than all of them. When you face your second toughest opponent ever, the chance of a loss is there, like it or not. Ask Jermain Taylor about it, for example.

I gotta admit, this place rocks. Only around here will you spot a post pumping up the merits of Woodhall. Awesome.

Next up, HOF Sakio Bika, and in depth look.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I love how you subtly imply that all those guys ducked Joe. Just pathetic.

I love how paranoid you are.

Hopkins certainly did anyway.

Still no thoughts on Floyd and Tony?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I gotta admit, this place rocks. Only around here will you spot a post pumping up the merits of Woodhall. Awesome.

Next up, HOF Sakio Bika, and in depth look.

Yet someone was just "pumping up" Bronk McKart and you didnt say a thing. Hmm wonder why.

[black.ink]

If you put Taylor against Calzaghe's opponents at the time Joe fought them, i'd favour Jermain over them all except Kessler. Although, if Kessler's hand injury was true at the time they fought, then i'd favour Jermain in the same circumstance. The Hopkins that Taylor fought was a far better fighter then the one Joe faced. Like it or not.

[bsrizpac]

Yet someone was just "pumping up" Bronk McKart and you didnt say a thing. Hmm wonder why.

LOL@you accusing others of paranoia. Silly insecure goofball.