Pavlik-Hopkins

[TheGreatA]

Pavlik outworking the older Hopkins seems like the most reasonable prediction for me.

I do think that Hopkins has all the skill and experience to be able to beat Pavlik but he is getting too old to put them to use 100%. It won't be enough.

[hishaam15]

Hopkins is a 4-1 underdog?

Woah, i expected it to be 2-1 at most...


this will be massive if he pulls it off

[S A M U R A I]

HOW? You can't just say KO late. How do you see Hopkins gettin up enough of a workrate where a KO is remotely possible.

Pardon? I can say "Hopklins KO late" if I want to, cause that's how I feel it will go. I didn't realize there is a law against it...


Bernard will just build on what Taylor almost did. Kelly will go down. Hopkins still has the power, and knocking Calzaghe down proved it. Who do you think has a better chin, Pavlik or Calzaghe? I see several knockdowns for Kelly in this fight because he doesn't have a great chin, or at best he has a suspect chin.

Do the math:

Suspect chin + predictablity + Bernard's experience = a rough night for Kelly Pavlik.



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[ragingvic]

Pardon? I can say "Hopklins KO late" if I want to, cause that's how I feel it will go. I didn't realize there is a law against it...


Bernard will just build on what Taylor almost did. Kelly will go down. Hopkins still has the power, and knocking Calzaghe down proved it. Who do you think has a better chin, Pavlik or Calzaghe? I see several knockdowns for Kelly in this fight because he doesn't have a great chin, or at best he has a suspect chin.

Do the math:

Suspect chin + predictablity + Bernard's experience = a rough night for Kelly Pavlik.

WOW.

[chessplayer163]

B-HOP wins

I love Pavlik. I was looking forward to him building up his career and being a superstar. Great kid, humble, comes to fight. It's sad there gonna put him in there with X.

X easily beat Tarver, who is bigger, stonger, and better than Pavlik. X is technically way better than Pavlik. He'll beat him EASY.

1. Primarily with footwork. X has elite footwork. Pavlik is below average here. He only fights one way, FORWARD. X will use movement to beat Pavlik. Power punchers need a target. Taylor was a target and so was Miranda, both power punchers w/ no footwork.

2. Defense. Pavlik will not land anything clean the whole night. X has the best Defense in all of boxing.

3. Counters. X will counter Pavliks right had with left hooks to the body and head.

4. Jab. X will take away Pavliks jab first. Lets see what kind of fighter Pavlik is without his jab.

5. Lead Right. X will start landing his lead right.

6. If he can get Pavlik to back up, he will stop him.


Pavlik does have workrate, but nothing is going to land clean. Since there are no future stars besides Pavlik coming up they might steal this from BHOP on workrate alone. Calslappy didn't land anything and the biased commentators gave him credit on punches that didn't land.

Can someone that is for Pavlik give 'technical' reasons that Pavlik will win? For pure boxing skills this is a complete mismatch.

[S A M U R A I]

'Nard also has a better chin. Only time Bernard gets beaten is by slicksters, and Kelly ain't so slick.

Don't get me wrong, I like Kelly Pavlik, I have no bias against him. Is he in Hopkins' class? Of course not.



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[slicksouthpaw16]

I think Pavlik will have more problems than people expect, but i see him pulling away with a close controversial decision. One i thing i noticed in the Taylor fight was that Pavlik has weaknesses against fighters that gives him lateral movement and keeps a high guard. Hopkins even at this stage is 10 times the boxer than Taylor is, has far better defense and is more crafty and intelligent. He knows how to get out of the way of danger, he keeps his head low so he doesn't get caught on the way in and he keeps the fight in the center of the ring, which is one of the most important factors has most of Kelly's knockout has came with his opponent on the ropes taking punishment. While a Pavlik prediction is my pick, i will NOT be surprised at Hopkins winning. A Pavlik win is better for boxing though, so i reckon he has the advantage if the fight is close.

[roujinziro]

I'm gonna say Pavlik SD. Hopkins makes everyone he fights look bad, and this will be no exception.

[-EX-]

Hopkins by split decision. Regardless Hopkins is gonna make it competitive. Just off of him being difficult to hit and being unpredictable with where his punches are coming from. Unlike Calzaghe Pavlik is more stationary and easier to hit IMO. But Pavlik has really good stamina.