Ike may have had the power to beat Lennox but someone like Lennox would not have underestimated a big powerhouse like Ike. Byrd knew he was in with a monster and paid the price by sitting on the ropes. Remember that Lennox ALWAYS was focused when he was aware of the threat in front of him. Look at the rematches against both the guys he lost to. One got KTFO and the other started crying like a big *****.
Ike Ibeabuchi VS Lennox Lewis
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McCall's breakdown had nothing to do with what Lennox was putting on him....because little was happening.
Wez.....Ike was so much more than a bruiser.
The guy had an excellent foundation. A very good jab, & he followed it with two-fisted combos....which is something rare in these modern heavies.
His chin & stamina were tops, also.Comment
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I agree. Ike showed a good chin and stamina as we all know against Tua...but he also had very good technical skills. Ike put his punches together well after setting them up with the jab. He was patient and had a very dangerous right hand and uppercut (Byrdman knows better than anyone). This fight would not be some Lennox Lewis jab and uppercut show. It would actually be very competitive the whole way. I think Lenny would win in most cases but if they were to fight each other, say, ten times I think Lewis would only win about 7/10 times.Originally posted by jabsRstiffMcCall's breakdown had nothing to do with what Lennox was putting on him....because little was happening.
Wez.....Ike was so much more than a bruiser.
The guy had an excellent foundation. A very good jab, & he followed it with two-fisted combos....which is something rare in these modern heavies.
His chin & stamina were tops, also.Comment
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I wasn't privilaged to see alot of Ike, i am purely judging him on his fight against Byrd and a couple of rounds from his fight against Tua. Pretty shallow opinion from meOriginally posted by jabsRstiffMcCall's breakdown had nothing to do with what Lennox was putting on him....because little was happening.
Wez.....Ike was so much more than a bruiser.
The guy had an excellent foundation. A very good jab, & he followed it with two-fisted combos....which is something rare in these modern heavies.
His chin & stamina were tops, also.
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Yes Ike's legend continues to grow, but I would stake my mortgage that he destroys Lewis and very early at that. Keep in mind folks that Ike was still a baby when he fought Tua and Tua had a lot of fights under his belt. That is one of the greatest heavyweight fights you will ever see. The decision is definately debatable, it could have gone too tua but let me say this..that was by far by far by far the best David Tua we have or will ever see. Ike may have ruined Tua that night, he was never the same, he was never willing to commit like he did that night. Ike took some of the biggest bombs Tua has ever landed and was fine, granted a Lewis right hand is always tough too take no matter hwo you are but Ike's chin would have been just fine. Don't hate the Byrd victory, I was there and I watche dhim destroy Byrd, and as others have already pointed out no one has done that to Byrd since! When Lewis got in trouble against VT in the second round, had that have been Ibeabuchi it would have been over..immediately. I can't see Ike waisting anytime with Lewis therefore this fight would no way have gone past five and most likely not have gone past three. Ike in a complete destruction!Comment
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Originally posted by scapYes Ike's legend continues to grow, but I would stake my mortgage that he destroys Lewis and very early at that. Keep in mind folks that Ike was still a baby when he fought Tua and Tua had a lot of fights under his belt. That is one of the greatest heavyweight fights you will ever see. The decision is definately debatable, it could have gone too tua but let me say this..that was by far by far by far the best David Tua we have or will ever see. Ike may have ruined Tua that night, he was never the same, he was never willing to commit like he did that night. Ike took some of the biggest bombs Tua has ever landed and was fine, granted a Lewis right hand is always tough too take no matter hwo you are but Ike's chin would have been just fine. Don't hate the Byrd victory, I was there and I watche dhim destroy Byrd, and as others have already pointed out no one has done that to Byrd since! When Lewis got in trouble against VT in the second round, had that have been Ibeabuchi it would have been over..immediately. I can't see Ike waisting anytime with Lewis therefore this fight would no way have gone past five and most likely not have gone past three. Ike in a complete destruction!
scap....
Nice post !
You're right...Ike was still coming along, & had a great trainer in Curtis Cokes.
He was only going to get stronger, & better, over time.Comment
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how would lewis have handled ike's power, chin and speed?
how would ike handle fightinng a giant that can box and move?
questions we'll never know the answer to.... i give lewis the edge, because against the top guys, lewis was at his best.... he only lost when he wasnt supposed to... if lewis boxed, jabbed and moved on ike, how would ike react? ike never faced anyone like lewis for us to gauge against...Comment
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and dont let your hate for Lewis lead you into acting like a dumbass....Oh wait too lateOriginally posted by jabsRstiffJose....
uh...please go & watch Ike-Byrd again.
Ike was controlling that fight....applying steady pressure, without getting frazzled....& landing shots with more frequency as the fight wore on.
Then he BLASTED the guy into tomorrow. Nobody has done this to Byrd since.
Against the PUZZLE Byrd was back then.....you couldn't ask for a better performance.
Don't let your love of Lewis, which leads to FEAR of Ike, lead you into talking out your ass, bro.Comment
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Originally posted by joseand dont let your hate for Lewis lead you into acting like a dumbass....Oh wait too late
Wrong, sissy....I don't hate Lewis.
Why don't you check the "Lewis vs. Frazier" & "Where Does Lewis Rank" threads.
You'll see I respect him, totally.
See....that's why you're a nutlicker.....you take the "hater" route when someone isn't shining on your boy.Comment
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