Joe Calzaghe Vacates WBO Title After a Ten-Year Run

[abadger]

Acually: More than one , bud.

1: Hopkins
2: Toney
3: Trinidad
4: Tarver

All on the lb4lb top 10 list at one point or another.

How about when Jones fought them?

[alza1988]

I doubt it will happen , but hopefully him and Pavlik fight at a catch weight or something , it looks unlikely but .

[Chase8400]

How about when Jones fought them?

I did'nt see anywhere , where you specified that they had to be lb4lb at the time. Be clearer about your meaning and you will get the proper responses.

[Allucard]

so what, i've had the ibt championship for 15 years.

all i've fought has been 10 year olds but whatever, i have a better resume than calzaghe.

Whoever doesn't know **** about boxing reads the original post and will think Calzaghe is the best fighter who ever lived! hahahaha

[alza1988]

Boxrec all time super middleweight ratings 1.Steve Collins
2.Nigel Benn
3.Chris Eubank
Calzaghe should be in them soon .

[abadger]

Whoever doesn't know **** about boxing reads the original post and will think Calzaghe is the best fighter who ever lived! hahahaha

Funny isn't it that someone could read a factual account of Calzaghe's career and come away with the impression that he is one of history's best boxers.

[Da Hammer]

It's obvious that he really is going to retire after the RJJ fight either way. he wants no part of pavlik! Man **** Calzaghe i hope RJJ ****s him up!!! Seriously outside of the UK will anyone really remember Calzaghe???

[IMDAZED]

Roy Jones best three wins are over a Hopkins who had never even held a world title, James Toney and John Ruiz. At 160 and 168 he fought average opponents. At 175 he beat some good boxers Virgil Hill, Montell Griffin etc. Calzaghe fought some good fighters too, former world champions Reid, Mitchell, Brewer, Woodhall.

In you're rush to make a point...you go overboard. Please don't embarrass yourself and compare Calzaghe's resume to Roy's. I'd rather not pick apart this post and have you go on one of your wild rants. Seriously.

[abadger]

In you're rush to make a point...you go overboard. Please don't embarrass yourself and compare Calzaghe's resume to Roy's. I'd rather not pick apart this post and have you go on one of your wild rants. Seriously.

The reality of Jones career is that outside of his marquee fights with Toney and Hopkins, his resume is average at 160 and 168. Who are the best fighters he faced here? Malinga, Thornton and Lucas?

At 175 Jones beat a better class of opposition. McCallum, Griffin, Hill, Del Valle, Harding, Reggie Johnson and Clinton Woods represent a step up in terms of average quality, whether they are anything to write home about is debatable, but these are the type of fights I defend in general and there are certainly more of them both in quantity and proportionality than in Calzaghe's defences list, and they allowed Jones to unify the division.

Then of course he stepped up and won the HW title which is a big plus for an ex LMW, even against Ruiz. So in the end, even taking into account Jones losses, his resume tops Calzaghe's, but people should not make the mistake of believing Jones was beating top class guy after top class guy, the major difference between his and Calzagh's resume is quantity, not quality, both in terms of opponents and in terms of weight divisions and titles.

[IMDAZED]

The reality of Jones career is that outside of his marquee fights with Toney and Hopkins, his resume is average at 160 and 168. Who are the best fighters he faced here? Malinga, Thornton and Lucas?

Ironically, prime Lucas and Malinga are better than 95% of Calzaghe's resume. What then, what would you call Joe's resume?

At 175 Jones beat a better class of opposition. McCallum, Griffin, Hill, Del Valle, Harding, Reggie Johnson and Clinton Woods represent a step up in terms of average quality, whether they are anything to write home about is debatable, but these are the type of fights I defend in general and there are certainly more of them both in quantity and proportionality than in Calzaghe's defences list, and they allowed Jones to unify the division.

So those guys are a step up from the ones who are 95% better than Calzaghe's resume.

Then of course he stepped up and won the HW title which is a big plus for an ex LMW, even against Ruiz. So in the end, even taking into account Jones losses, his resume tops Calzaghe's, but people should not make the mistake of believing Jones was beating top class guy after top class guy, the major difference between his and Calzagh's resume is quantity, not quality, both in terms of opponents and in terms of weight divisions and titles.

List Calzaghe's 10 best opponents. List Jones'. Get back to me. Feel free to go as high as 15 - I know we can for Roy.