Why is Freddie Roach so highly regarded?

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  • MELLY-MEL...
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    #11
    because he is a great trainer.

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    • Bhopreign
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      #12
      Originally posted by Cochulito
      Now i know he is training the best fighter in the world. But i have to say most of that is all Pacquiao skills.

      Roach seems like an expensive guy who only trains guys worth his time.

      But think about.

      Other than pacquaio what has he done in other fighter's careers? Maybe i am wrong so please correct me.

      With
      Mike Tyson- he lost to Danny Williams.
      Diosdado Gabi- Lost his big name fights
      Bobby Pacquiao-.......
      Roman Karmazin- Just got ktfo by Alex Bunema and lost to Cory Spinks before that
      Oscar De La Hoya- Lost to Mayweather
      Dimitry Kirilov- Just got stopped by Darchinyan
      Israel Vasquez- Lost to Marquez the first time under Roach
      Rey Bautista- KTFO by Ponce de leon
      Bernard Hopkins- Lost to Calzaghe under Roach

      You all see what i mean?

      I see what you mean, but Roach can only tell them what to do, he cant fight for them. Have you made straight A's in school throughout life? If not, is it the teacher's fault or yours.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #13
        Originally posted by Cochulito
        Now i know he is training the best fighter in the world. But i have to say most of that is all Pacquiao skills.

        Roach seems like an expensive guy who only trains guys worth his time.

        But think about.

        Other than pacquaio what has he done in other fighter's careers? Maybe i am wrong so please correct me.

        With
        Mike Tyson- he lost to Danny Williams.
        Diosdado Gabi- Lost his big name fights
        Bobby Pacquiao-.......
        Roman Karmazin- Just got ktfo by Alex Bunema and lost to Cory Spinks before that
        Oscar De La Hoya- Lost to Mayweather
        Dimitry Kirilov- Just got stopped by Darchinyan
        Israel Vasquez- Lost to Marquez the first time under Roach
        Rey Bautista- KTFO by Ponce de leon
        Bernard Hopkins- Lost to Calzaghe under Roach

        You all see what i mean?
        you can't blame roach for those loses... he just trains them. some of those fighters are all deficient in some manner or other.

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        • Chups
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          #14
          Originally posted by Cochulito
          Now i know he is training the best fighter in the world. But i have to say most of that is all Pacquiao skills.

          Roach seems like an expensive guy who only trains guys worth his time.

          But think about.

          Other than pacquaio what has he done in other fighter's careers? Maybe i am wrong so please correct me.

          With
          Mike Tyson- he lost to Danny Williams.
          Diosdado Gabi- Lost his big name fights
          Bobby Pacquiao-.......
          Roman Karmazin- Just got ktfo by Alex Bunema and lost to Cory Spinks before that
          Oscar De La Hoya- Lost to Mayweather
          Dimitry Kirilov- Just got stopped by Darchinyan
          Israel Vasquez- Lost to Marquez the first time under Roach
          Rey Bautista- KTFO by Ponce de leon
          Bernard Hopkins- Lost to Calzaghe under Roach

          You all see what i mean?
          But what trainer hasn't lost a big fight?

          Even Nacho had loses with Juan, Escobedo and Rafael.

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          • BlackHat
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            #15
            Originally posted by Chups
            But what trainer hasn't lost a big fight?

            Even Nacho had loses with Juan, Escobedo and Rafael.
            LIE!!! JMM was undefeated. Nacho even gave JMM his defining moments by fighting chris john.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Cochulito
              Now i know he is training the best fighter in the world. But i have to say most of that is all Pacquiao skills.

              Roach seems like an expensive guy who only trains guys worth his time.

              But think about.

              Other than pacquaio what has he done in other fighter's careers? Maybe i am wrong so please correct me.

              With
              Mike Tyson- he lost to Danny Williams.
              Diosdado Gabi- Lost his big name fights
              Bobby Pacquiao-.......
              Roman Karmazin- Just got ktfo by Alex Bunema and lost to Cory Spinks before that
              Oscar De La Hoya- Lost to Mayweather
              Dimitry Kirilov- Just got stopped by Darchinyan
              Israel Vasquez- Lost to Marquez the first time under Roach
              Rey Bautista- KTFO by Ponce de leon
              Bernard Hopkins- Lost to Calzaghe under Roach

              You all see what i mean?
              steve collins!

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              • extracurRICular
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                #17
                Originally posted by Makavelli
                because he was so adorable in jerry macguire



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                • larryx
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Chups
                  But what trainer hasn't lost a big fight?

                  Even Nacho had loses with Juan, Escobedo and Rafael.
                  rodger ****ing mayweather

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                  • shadeyfizzle
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                    #19
                    Pacquiao wasnt even that good until Roach trained him and he only trains the other pinoys as a favor to Pacquiao.

                    Roach has also been longtime trainer of James Toney and Juan Lazcano who have had successful careers.

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                    • Chups
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by larryx
                      rodger ****ing mayweather
                      He lost to Chavez twice.

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