I mean, this are the same dudes who are always complaining bout people saying Morales and Barrera were passed their prime and now they seem so bothered by the amount of credit Marquez is getting for the win.
You guys are running your mouths saying the win isnt **** because Casa was passed his prime? So then we can go ahead and disregard Manny's win over Morales and Barrera right? You guys wont have a problem with that...............oh but wait, if we do that, thats practically most of Pacquiao's resume.
You guys TRULY cannot be this ******. Do you even think about what you post?
Give JMM the credit he deserves.
JMM, a SMALL Jr. Lightweight, moved up to 135 to CHALLENGE THE division's Lightweight Champion who just happened to be one of Boxing's most craftiest and knowledgeable figthers, who also happened to knock out one of the division's most violent and able fighters in Michael Katisidis and OUTBOX and KNOCK HIM OUT.
I am a Pac fan as well. Chups, Shadefizzle, Left Hook Tua all can vouch for me as I have defended Pac manny a times on this forum. But you fools cant discredit Marquez's win when Manny moved up and challenged the division's WEAKEST Champion to test the waters at Lightweight.
Dont make yourselves seem ******. JMM just earned his #2 spot behind Pacquiao.
It was Marquez' night. He did well. A Pacquiao-Marquez III should come along so we all can be excited in watching another good fight.
Read my post again, I said the first time PAC fought MAB, EM, and JMM, they were all on the P4P list so they were nowhere near as shot as CASA is now...POINT ONE...
I knew someone was going to say triangle theory, BUT, in this case triangle theory doesnrt apply because you'll be hard pressed to find anyone that doesnt think PAC would beat CASA or Santa Cruz... Except the haters on this site...
Not really because Morales had just lost to Barrera before then for a 2nd time. I'm not really sure what your point is with Marquez and Morales the first time since once he lost and he drew, and personally thought he lost, with Marquez. The Barrera win was fantastic though. Especially since Barrera racked up such quality wins after.
And I agree that Pacquiao would beat Casamayor and Santa Cruz, but Casamayor would do equally as good of a job that against Pacquaio as he did against Marquez.
the thing is a lot of people, including me, were saying Casamayor looked terrible against Katsidis, who is not a good fighter at all. Katsidis showed how bad he is against Diaz yet he gave Casamayor hell. I said several times before this fight that Joel had no shot based on the way he struggled with Katsidis and that was before I saw Katsidis get dominated by Diaz, which REALLY confirmed that Casa can't cut it anymore.
Not saying Casa would have beat Marquez four years ago, but Casa is so far past his best it's unreal. Everybody saw that back in November of last year really when he was clearly beaten by Santa Cruz.
the thing is a lot of people, including me, were saying Casamayor looked terrible against Katsidis, who is not a good fighter at all. Katsidis showed how bad he is against Diaz yet he gave Casamayor hell. I said several times before this fight that Joel had no shot based on the way he struggled with Katsidis and that was before I saw Katsidis get dominated by Diaz, which REALLY confirmed that Casa can't cut it anymore.
Not saying Casa would have beat Marquez four years ago, but Casa is so far past his best it's unreal. Everybody saw that back in November of last year really when he was clearly beaten by Santa Cruz.
You didnt think Casa looked game this fight? Because I was one of those that said Casa was done too, and he surprised me. He was holding his own, and even started to come on in the 10th round before JMM put him on the deck a few minutes later.
the thing is a lot of people, including me, were saying Casamayor looked terrible against Katsidis, who is not a good fighter at all. Katsidis showed how bad he is against Diaz yet he gave Casamayor hell. I said several times before this fight that Joel had no shot based on the way he struggled with Katsidis and that was before I saw Katsidis get dominated by Diaz, which REALLY confirmed that Casa can't cut it anymore.
Not saying Casa would have beat Marquez four years ago, but Casa is so far past his best it's unreal. Everybody saw that back in November of last year really when he was clearly beaten by Santa Cruz.
He lost like 3 rounds. He got his ass kicked in the middle rounds, but then he regained himself and was winning the fight. Anyone who had Katsidis must have been
That and Casamayor held his own with Marquez. Yes he was past his prime, but he wasn't shot.
Honestly Pac 2nd and third wins over Morrales were predicted and it was a shame he fought Eric at this stage(Eric was/is shot) ZAHIR RAHEEM had just whipped Eric's azz easily and Pac still wanted to fight Eric(It was for the $$$). Pac did not want to face RAHEEM or another top guy in his division. IM NOT saying he can or can not beat the other guys, but he chose to face an older battered champ as Eric then Barrera...
Now he's facing Oscar(A disgraceful boxer for facing Pac)! I'm pulling for lil Pac. But Pac has NOT faced the best in several years besides JMM. When Pac faced Eric, Barrera etc hmmm were they "The Men"? NOPE
JMM BEAT and KO'd he BEST! PERIOD!!! Regardless of age Cass was "The Champ" "The Man" and "#1" in his class...
Let Pac face Nate Campbell then the winner face JMM in April!
JMM should be #1 after last nights performance IMO, because of his quality of opposition.
Honestly Pac 2nd and third wins over Morrales were predicted and it was a shame he fought Eric at this stage(Eric was/is shot) ZAHIR RAHEEM had just whipped Eric's azz easily and Pac still wanted to fight Eric(It was for the $$$). Pac did not want to face RAHEEM or another top guy in his division. IM NOT saying he can or can not beat the other guys, but he chose to face an older battered champ as Eric then Barrera...
Now he's facing Oscar(A disgraceful boxer for facing Pac)! I'm pulling for lil Pac. But Pac has NOT faced the best in several years besides JMM. When Pac faced Eric, Barrera etc hmmm were they "The Men"? NOPE
JMM BEAT and KO'd he BEST! PERIOD!!! Regardless of age Cass was "The Champ" "The Man" and "#1" in his class...
Let Pac face Nate Campbell then the winner face JMM in April!
JMM should be #1 after last nights performance IMO, because of his quality of opposition.
raheem was not in manny's division. manny was at 130. the erik-zahir fight was at 135.
manny fought marco first then erik.
marco was the best at 126 when they met in 2003.
one could argue sasakul was the best at 112 at the time manny beat him.
erik was the man at 130 the fight before his 1st fight with manny. he lost to marco who pac had already beat.
Comment