DeLaHoya-Forrest and Pacquiao-Marquez. Best for all involved.

[Left Hook Tua]

With Forrest regaining the WBC Super Welterweight title and Marquez winning the RING Lightweight title , cancelling DeLaHoya-Pacquiao would be best for everyone.

For Oscar , a win against Forrest for the WBC 154 belts would be more meaningful in his retirement fight than a win over a natural featherweight. Not only will it be for a belt but he'd have beat the man that beat the man who beat him. Forrest has a good name and beating the guy that gave Shane his first 2 losses would help make up for his own 2 losses against Shane.

For Vernon , he gets the biggest payday of his career. No other incentives needed.

For Manny , he gets to win the lineal title at 135 and less chance of him getting seriously hurt. An Oscar fight would be more money but a rubber match with JuanMa would be for good money as well. Who's to say Oscar doesn't ruin him? Plus a win over JuanMa legitimizes his status as 135 king and he can make a Hatton fight to be between the lineal champions at 135 and 140.

For Juan Manuel , he gets his much desired rubber match with Manny and it'll make all 3 of their fights for the lineal belts at 126 , 130 and 135. That's boxing history for a trilogy. When was the last time a trilogy spread out over 3 divisions and each time it was for the lineal title?

It won't happen. Too much money in an Oscar-Manny fight but if it were to happen it'd be best for all boxers involved and , more importantly , best for boxing and its fans.

[Silencers]

The Barrera-Morales trilogy was contested over 3 weight divisions, 122, 126 and 130, I think they were for the linear titles of all 3 weight divisions, I'm not sure though.

DLH-Margarito would be better for boxing IMO, Pacquiao-Marquez 3 certainly would be good as well but there's too much money involved in a Pacquiao-DLH fight for them to call it off.

[Left Hook Tua]

The Barrera-Morales trilogy was contested over 3 weight division, 122, 126 and 130, I think they were for the linear titles of all 3 weight divisions, I'm not sure though.

DLH-Margarito would be better for boxing IMO, Pacquiao-Marquez 3 certainly would be good as well but there's too much money involved in a Pacquiao-DLH fight for them to call it off.

i don't think the marco and erik was for the lineal belt at 122 and 130. 126 was for a lineal belt but i'm not sure about 122. 130 was definitely not. 130 was only for a ABC belt.

Well I was talking about what's best for Oscar. I don't think he beats Marg. He wants to win for his last fight.

I think Oscar would beat Forrest. It'd be for a belt and Vernon beat Shane twice who beat Oscar twice. It'd be better for his legacy than a lose-lose situation like fighting Manny.

Agreed there's too much money in Oscar-Manny to cancel it.

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i don't think the marco and erik was for the lineal belt at 122 and 130. 126 was for a lineal belt but i'm not sure about 122. 130 was definitely not. 130 was only for a ABC belt.

Well I was talking about what's best for Oscar. I don't think he beats Marg. He wants to win for his last fight.

I think Oscar would beat Forrest. It'd be for a belt and Vernon beat Shane twice who beat Oscar twice. It'd be better for his legacy than a lose-lose situation like fighting Manny.

Agreed there's too much money in Oscar-Manny to cancel it.

What's best for DLH right now is money, which is what he's going to get against Pacquiao, I think a win over Margarito at this point is better than a win over Forrest for his legacy as well.

Ring magazine had Barrera and Morales ranked number 1 and 2 in their weight divisions when they fought all three times.

[Left Hook Tua]

What's best for DLH right now is money, which is what he's going to get against Pacquiao, I think a win over Margarito at this point is better than a win over Forrest for his legacy as well.

Ring magazine had Barrera and Morales ranked number 1 and 2 in their weight divisions when they fought all three times.

DeLaHoya as owner of GBP will make money nonetheless. Juan Manuel Marquez , Manny Pacquiao (co-promotes him when fighting a gbp fighter) , Ricky Hatton are ALL GBP fighters. oscar will make money no matter who he fights. pacquiao losing to oscar might lessen the money involved in those fights against ricky and juanma.

we're not on the same page , silence. of course marg is a better win for oscar but he's NOT gonna beat marg. forrest he can beat.

i'll look it up for 122. 130 was definitely NOT for the ring belt. or else juanma would be the ring champion when he and manny fought in march. manny at #1 and juanma at #2 was what made their fight for the ring belt at 130.

[Silencers]

DeLaHoya as owner of GBP will make money nonetheless. Juan Manuel Marquez , Manny Pacquiao (co-promotes him when fighting a gbp fighter) , Ricky Hatton are ALL GBP fighters. oscar will make money no matter who he fights. pacquiao losing to oscar might lessen the money involved in those fights against ricky and juanma.

we're not on the same page , silence. of course marg is a better win for oscar but he's NOT gonna beat marg. forrest he can beat.

i'll look it up for 122. 130 was definitely NOT for the ring belt. or else juanma would be the ring champion when he and manny fought in march. manny at #1 and juanma at #2 was what made their fight for the ring belt at 130.

First part is true, he will definitely continue to make money through GBP.

I wouldn't count him out against Margarito, even a defeat could help his legacy, as long as he puts up a good fight and give Margarito a tough fight could help his legacy more than beating Forrest at this point but you're right, a Forrest fight is definitely more winnable right now.

Third part is true as well, which is interesting because the Ring did have them ranked as number 1 and 2 when they fought.

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What's best for DLH right now is money, which is what he's going to get against Pacquiao, I think a win over Margarito at this point is better than a win over Forrest for his legacy as well.

Ring magazine had Barrera and Morales ranked number 1 and 2 in their weight divisions when they fought all three times.

not sure about that at 130, Erik was Marco's first fight at 130 ...

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not sure about that at 130, Erik was Marco's first fight at 130 ...

That's where they were ranked in 2004 and 2005.

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...tweight--2000s

[MJ406]

With Forrest regaining the WBC Super Welterweight title and Marquez winning the RING Lightweight title , cancelling DeLaHoya-Pacquiao would be best for everyone.

For Oscar , a win against Forrest for the WBC 154 belts would be more meaningful in his retirement fight than a win over a natural featherweight. Not only will it be for a belt but he'd have beat the man that beat the man who beat him. Forrest has a good name and beating the guy that gave Shane his first 2 losses would help make up for his own 2 losses against Shane.

For Manny , he gets to win the lineal title at 135 and less chance of him getting seriously hurt. An Oscar fight would be more money but a rubber match with JuanMa would be for good money as well. Who's to say Oscar doesn't ruin him? Plus a win over JuanMa legitimizes his status as 135 king and he can make a Hatton fight to be between the lineal champions at 135 and 140.

For Juan Manuel , he gets his much desired rubber match with Manny and it'll make all 3 of their fights for the lineal belts at 126 , 130 and 135. That's boxing history for a trilogy. When was the last time a trilogy spread out over 3 divisions and each time it was for the lineal title?

It won't happen. Too much money in an Oscar-Manny fight but if it were to happen it'd be best for all boxers involved and , more importantly , best for boxing and its fans.

If you saw Oscar De La Hoya on Sportscenter you wouldn't even bother making this topic, lol.

after claiming he was fighting Pacquiao because Manny "called him out" Oscar went on to say, "This'll be the biggest event in boxing history"

you can't say the same about Forrest-DLH .. reason already bolded, you said it but Oscar wants to cash out, and he is.

*and yeah no **** DLH will make money regardless as a promoter (most do)
but his fight vs Pacquiao will obviously make HIM more money then his other fighters do

[Guest]

I don't think I have ever heard Oscar even mention Vernon Forrest's name esp after the Mosley fights.
None of these fights are going to go on.
I think it would be neat to see JMM-Campbell now.