Tyson vs. Ibeabuchi (when both 20-0)

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  • slicksouthpaw16
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    #21
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    tua beat ike (yes. he beat ike dammit!) through his toughness and chin though not skill.

    tua can take punishment better (better chin , cut and swell less as well as take the punishment better mentally) than tyson.

    who's to say mike doesn't get battered , bloodied by ike? i don't think anyone can blow out ike in a few rounds.

    prime tua was also better in the late rounds than mike. how would mike handle a fight where ike threw 80 punches a round?
    I definitely agree with Tua being FAR mentally tougher than Tyson with better stamina, but Ibeabuchi beat Tua by unanimous decision. Its always 115-113 every time i watch it. He came on late when Tua came off of the gas pedal. He also out threw and out landed him as well.

    Something that should also be considered is the fact that Ike only had about 15 fights at the time he fought Tua and about 19 when he fought Byrd so he was basically a green contender fighting ranked fighters that had over 13 fights than he did, like Tua was about 28-0 at the time. Byrd has a similar record if i am remembering right.

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    • Left Hook Tua
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      #22
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      Oh, I agree with you my friend. and I would argue that the exact same thing could be said of Ike. Peace.
      mike looked invincible at one point.

      ike was only undefeated because tua was robbed!

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        #23
        Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
        I definitely agree with Tua being FAR mentally tougher than Tyson with better stamina, but Ibeabuchi beat Tua by unanimous decision. Its always 115-113 every time i watch it. He came on late when Tua came off of the gas pedal. He also out threw and out landed him as well.

        Something that should also be considered is the fact that Ike only had about 15 fights at the time he fought Tua and about 19 when he fought Byrd so he was basically a green contender fighting ranked fighters that had over 13 fights than he did, like Tua was about 28-0 at the time. Byrd has a similar record if i am remembering right.
        i think tua pulled it off. ike landed more but tua hurt him more.

        all depends on the type of judge.

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        • Flawless
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          #24
          Why do you talk about chin all the time Tyson has been KO was by Buster when he didn’t prepare even and after he went to jail and took fights when he was way past his prime. Tyson at that stage of his career was a beast and was even agile and would have KO Ike or UD. Tyson is way faster than Tua and a smarter boxer

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          • iron_boy
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            #25
            tyson by brutal k.o!

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              #26
              Originally posted by Flawless
              Why do you talk about chin all the time Tyson has been KO was by Buster when he didn’t prepare even and after he went to jail and took fights when he was way past his prime. Tyson at that stage of his career was a beast and was even agile and would have KO Ike or UD. Tyson is way faster than Tua and a smarter boxer
              tyson was in good shape as always for the buster fight , flaw. all that didn't train nonsense was excuse to why he lost.

              tyson has a very good chin. difference is he can still get koed while others are impossible to ko.

              no one ever said tua was better than tyson. where'd you get that?

              tua just has some things that are better than tyson. mainly chin and durability.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                tyson was in good shape as always for the buster fight , flaw. all that didn't train nonsense was excuse to why he lost.

                tyson has a very good chin. difference is he can still get koed while others are impossible to ko.

                no one ever said tua was better than tyson. where'd you get that?

                tua just has some things that are better than tyson. mainly chin and durability.
                Tyson got KO’d by Buster simply because he didn’t train. The other fights he lost were merely a that fact he was past his prime and it took tonnes of punches to finally put him down, the reason he was getting hit was he changed trainers and forgot about using his speed and focused more on just one big punch.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Flawless
                  Tyson got KO’d by Buster simply because he didn’t train. The other fights he lost were merely a that fact he was past his prime and it took tonnes of punches to finally put him down, the reason he was getting hit was he changed trainers and forgot about using his speed and focused more on just one big punch.
                  what does training have to do with chin?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    what does training have to do with chin?
                    He wasn’t prepared for Buster and wasn’t at his best at that fight, and was getting hit very easy due to a lack of training while resulted in a TKO which Tyson took his time to pick up his mouth guard and the fight should have continued.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Flawless
                      He wasn’t prepared for Buster and wasn’t at his best at that fight, and was getting hit very easy due to a lack of training while resulted in a TKO which Tyson took his time to pick up his mouth guard and the fight should have continued.
                      he was out of it , flaw!

                      how many times have you seen tua hurt or on the floor?

                      tyson is better than tua. he is greater than tua. that doesn't mean he has a better chin!

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