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  • The Next Champ
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    #1

    Can i ask boxing fans a question?

    I jus want to say somethin about Roy Jones and his knockout losses to Tarver and Johnson. Does this tarnish he legacy because Thomas Hearns and Sugar ray Robinson both got knocked out and where still looked at as good foghters after those fights so jus askin maybe it was the other fighters and not Roy...i Mean Tarver was a tall southpaw who gave Roy trouble with his style and Glen Johnson has legendary stamina and a solid chin so can Roy still be good and maybe it was jus those fighters
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    #2
    Originally posted by The Next Champ
    I jus want to say somethin about Roy Jones and his knockout losses to Tarver and Johnson. Does this tarnish he legacy because Thomas Hearns and Sugar ray Robinson both got knocked out and where still looked at as good foghters after those fights so jus askin maybe it was the other fighters and not Roy...i Mean Tarver was a tall southpaw who gave Roy trouble with his style and Glen Johnson has legendary stamina and a solid chin so can Roy still be good and maybe it was jus those fighters
    It's looked at on a case-by-case basis. Typically when an aging legend loses (whether it's by knockout or decision) you have to take into consideration a few variables.

    1.) How old was the legend numerically?
    2.) How did he look in his last few fights? Any signs of fading in him?
    3.) How good was the opponet that beat him?
    4.) Could the guy who beat him have beaten him in his prime?

    There's no one-fit solution. You just analyze it on a case-by-case basis and come to your own conclusion.

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    • Miburo
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      #3
      Robinson was never knocked out. The losses were very bad, they definitely tarnished his image.

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      • Brother Naazim
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        #4
        Originally posted by Tengoshi
        Robinson was never knocked out. The losses were very bad, they definitely tarnished his image.

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        • Miburo
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          #5
          Honestly the Johnson KO was one of the most pathetic-looking I've seen. Jones looked like an injured child or an invalid trying to lift his head.

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          • Brother Naazim
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            #6
            I'll admit the Johnson knockout was about as bad as it could be. But Johnson has always been a tough opponet, most of his losses are clear robberies or hometown decisions. And Johnson is still doing well even at this late stage of his career, still can't get a decision to save his life, but he's among the best at Light Heavyweight.

            I don't think the 2 KO losses of Jones tarnish his legacy in any significant way.

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            • Miburo
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              I never said they tarnished his legacy, I said they tarnished his image significantly. I do think however that due to this they also somewhat tarnished his legacy, Jones will always be remembered as falling off a cliff rather than slowly declining. A win over Calzaghe could overwrite it to a degree in the public consciousness though.

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                #8
                Originally posted by TucanMcGinty
                I'll admit the Johnson knockout was about as bad as it could be. But Johnson has always been a tough opponet, most of his losses are clear robberies or hometown decisions. And Johnson is still doing well even at this late stage of his career, still can't get a decision to save his life, but he's among the best at Light Heavyweight.

                I don't think the 2 KO losses of Jones tarnish his legacy in any significant way.

                Second time I've seen this vid in a week. Roy had the illest swagger ever.

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