The Worst Heavyweight era of all time!

[Ryn0]

You don't know what you're talking about as much as you think.

None of Ali's opponents in the 60s were significantly better than these guys; some were worse. None of his opponents after Foreman were nearly as good.

None of the guys Tsyon beat before Spinks could win a belt today.

It's easy to look at twelve fights over forty years and then compare them all favorably to a Saturday stream between two fringe contenders. That's all you're doing.

And again, no you don't know your ****.

Valuev has a title 3 fights ago (4 if you count the one just gone past) He's a "top heavyweight" exactly who else is there? Skelton? Povetkin? Golata?

Tyrell, Smith, Thomas all before Spinks and including Spinks could beat Peter and Ibragimov and Maskaev all titlest recently. Frank Bruno would proberbly fair much better in this era as well. Ali's has subpar opponents but he had some worth opposition as well. There isn't anyone worth there salt in this heavyweight division yet. Povetkin is a prospect, Haye is unknown, Chagaev still hasn't been tested. Wlad is the only solid fighter that we know could hang with the top guys.

[DiegoFuego]

Valuev has a title 3 fights ago (4 if you count the one just gone past) He's a "top heavyweight" exactly who else is there? Skelton? Povetkin? Golata?

Tyrell, Smith, Thomas all before Spinks and including Spinks could beat Peter and Ibragimov and Maskaev all titlest recently. Frank Bruno would proberbly fair much better in this era as well. Ali's has subpar opponents but he had some worth opposition as well. There isn't anyone worth there salt in this heavyweight division yet. Povetkin is a prospect, Haye is unknown, Chagaev still hasn't been tested. Wlad is the only solid fighter that we know could hang with the top guys.

just not any Corrie Sanders, Lamon Brewsters or Ross Purrittys, but other than that he's good to go!

[Ryn0]

Cruiserweight is the weakest division in boxing

The best cruiserweight is Adamek and he got schooled by Chad Dawson at light heavyweight....That same Dawson got beat up by 40 year old Glen Johnson.

Heavyweight >>> Cruiserweight

Just to be clear it's not a Wlad hate thread. Wlad is stuck in a division with no real competition apart from Haye and Chagaev both of which are unknown. Peter is too unskilled. Wlad is stuck in a bad division with nowhere to move.

[Scott9945]

Even if the Division was just EXCITING, i would be satisfied. But its both painfully boring and even more painfully untalented.

Cruiserweights are still a lot of fun though

It was better than that awful Chagaev-Skelton fight. That's about the best that I can say about it.

[Ryn0]

just not any Corrie Sanders, Lamon Brewsters or Ross Purrittys, but other than that he's good to go!

LOL. But with his safety first style now he can make a contest out of it.

[sparked_85]

It was better than that awful Chagaev-Skelton fight. That's about the best that I can say about it.

Pretty sure Skelton would do the samething to Ali.

That **** is so wiley, and yet **** at boxing.

[Scott9945]

He's rubbish right now, he's improving but that isn't saying much. All his has is his jab.

Valuev looked pathetic trying to throw combinations. He has a useful job and a decent (at best) straight right. Absolutely nothing else except a good chin.

[Scott9945]

Pretty sure Skelton would do the samething to Ali.

That **** is so wiley, and yet **** at boxing.

True, some fighters just bring out the worst in everyone they fight. On a higher level it would be Hopkins.

[Guest]

Valuev looked pathetic trying to throw combinations. He has a useful job and a decent (at best) straight right. Absolutely nothing else except a good chin.

He has the biggest head I've ever seen. I've heard the Russian army used to hold him upside down and use it to break up concrete.

He has a massive thick head.

[Randall_Hopkirk]

Another great advertisement for HW boxing tonight, almost as good as Iggy-Klit or Skelton-Chagev, we're spoiled.