Who was more of a joke?

**cotto16** · 08-29-2008, 08:51 PM

Its got to be hatton

**cotto16** · 08-29-2008, 09:01 PM

Who you guys got?

**Dynamite Kid** · 08-29-2008, 09:05 PM

Bruno was not hat bad he outboxed Lewis for most of their fight and he beat Oliver McCall

did Frazier even win a title he got sparked by Tyson in about 30 seconds and he got KTFO against Holmes too

**cotto16** · 08-29-2008, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Terrible...

Bruno was not hat bad he outboxed Lewis for most of their fight and he beat Oliver McCall

did Frazier even win a title he got sparked by Tyson in about 30 seconds and he got KTFO against Holmes too

every one knows the mccall fight was a fix! oliver came to the ring crying like some one had just died

**Mr. Ryan** · 08-29-2008, 09:50 PM

Ottke, like him or not, was a champion. He was also an Olympian. Marvis Frazier was pushed too soon, his father mismanaged his career bad. Bruno, ehh, he was good early until he had to breathe hard.

**Mr. Ryan** · 08-29-2008, 09:50 PM

I'd go with Primo Carnera, his fights were fixed by the mob.

**Chups** · 08-29-2008, 09:51 PM

If you say Carnera then you have to say Valuev.

**Mr. Ryan** · 08-29-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Chups

If you say Carnera then you have to say Valuev.

No, Valuev is a serious fighter with a solid amateur pedigree who stood up to the punches he got hit with. Contrast that with Carnera, who couldn't win a fight that the mob didn't set up. Valuev never got the living crap beaten out of him like Carnera did.

Valuev just gets a bad rap because he's not the best athlete and doesn't punch well for his size.

Who was more of a joke?