Manny Pacquiao: Has He Sold Out ? and Is He Really The Best Pound For Pound?

[shadeyfizzle]

fighting MAB & JMM BACK to BACK TWICE ....

fighting ERIK THREE TIMES almost consecutively, only having one tune fights against Larios & Velasquez IN BETWEEN FIGHTS ...

are not good enough runs, i no longer know what is a good run!?!

Bruseles, Mitchell, Gatti, Corley, Judah, Baldomir is the epitome of a good run

[Tha_Greatest]

A terrible article. Not worthy of wiping my ass with. No surprise this was something published on ****sideboxing

you log in to ****sideboxing from time to time, thats weird, considering thats a piece of crap article

[El Jesus]

Morales supposedly completely shot in the 3rd Pacquiao fight follows up by knocking down and nearly beating David Diaz.

These just arent things shot fighters are capable of

I think thats more of a testament to how bad david diaz is. Jose Armando Santa Cruz was handing him a new ass until hilariously diaz caught him and stopped him. Old morales put him on his ass and pacman just obliterated him.

[Flawless]

Why is anyone under under MW called a warriror for?? I never get it, skinny guys hitting each other.

[El Dominicano]

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25.08.08 - By Michael Herron: It seems everyone has bought into Larry Merchant and HBO's insistence that Pacquiao is the best pound for pound (P4P) fighter in boxing. Yes, Pac is an exciting fighter but are his accomplishments and performances in the ring really up to P4P standards? His claim to the top spot, in my opinion, is largely based on his wins over Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera. Truth is, only his first fight with Barrera is representative of a top P4P fighter performance; which I will describe as beating the best while they are the best. Let’s not forget he lost his first fight with Morales and only beat him after he lost to Raheem. By the time of the rematch Morales was a shot fighter, and the third fight was just unnecessary. In addition, let me add that the Barrera rematch was also unnecessary as Barrera at that time was also far past his prime.

Looking closer at Pacquiao it seems that whenever he has a not so great performance in the ring, his next fight is usually against an opponent that will make him look good.. After his draw with Marquez, he went and beat up on Fahsan 3K battery; after his loss to Morales, he was matched against an average Hector Velasquez; and finally, after his controversial rematch with Marquez, he faced a mild threat against David Diaz. The point of the soft touches is to keep our friend Larry Merchant, HBO, and Pacquiao’s voracious fan base convinced that “Pacman” is the best.

The biggest problem is that a top pound for pound fighter should be able to distinguish himself as the best fighter in and around his natural weight class. After two controversial fights with Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao has not proven that he is the better fighter. Many fans, scribes, and boxing analysis agree that Marquez should be 2-0 against Pacquiao. This, in my opinion, is a glaring inconsistency.

The most recent pound for pound champion, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. has often been criticized for his performance in his first fight with Castillo. To solidify his status, however, he immediately rematches Castillo and beat him convincingly. Pacquiao, on the other hand, seems to get a free pass from critics even though he has not beaten Marquez convincingly! So the question is, why is/was Mayweather’s first fight with Castillo constantly brought up in regards to casting doubt toward his pound for pound standings, yet these same critics are willing to disregard Pacquiao’s poor outings versus Marquez?

And finally in this pound for pound argument, how can the boxing world ignore the fact that Pacquiao has feasted on Mexican fighters who by culture and tradition tend to fight in the same style? Pacquiao, it must be stated, has beaten no top American fighters and has squared off with no pure boxers; in particular, "Black" fighters--Latin, African, or American. Names that immediately come to mind are Joan Guzman, Nate Campbell, Joel Casamayor, Zahir Raheem, and even Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

So to end this argument, I'll give Pacquiao credit as the pound for pound most exciting fighter in boxing, but definitely not the pound for pound best fighter. Now I wouldn't say Marquez is the best pound for pound but as far as skills are concerned he should be rated higher than Pacquiao; and if he beats Casamayor, it will confirm it for me. My suggestion is that the top pound for pound spot remain vacant unless a true pound for pound fighter emerges or Floyd Mayweather, Jr. returns triumphantly to the sport.

Great article and valid points BUT I still disagree with 1 thing. Pac deserves the number 1 spot

[shadeyfizzle]

I think thats more of a testament to how bad david diaz is. Jose Armando Santa Cruz was handing him a new ass until hilariously diaz caught him and stopped him. Old morales put him on his ass and pacman just obliterated him.

But this was at 135. You dont think Morales would have been able to beat a rocky juarez who was still ranked 5th at 130 easily?? Or a valero or whoever it was he won the belt from??

[KILLA RIGHT]

Alot of truth joe and jmm should be above him

[bp4pbjr]

i found an article on another website ithas PAC-MAN as number 1 pound for pound now i believe that this means he is the best in the world
on this same website he is considered number 4 in the lightweight divison how does this work out to be he is either the best or not its simple
i personally believe he is

[El Jesus]

But this was at 135. You dont think Morales would have been able to beat a rocky juarez who was still ranked 5th at 130 easily?? Or a valero or whoever it was he won the belt from??

Valero is so unproven i really dont know how hed do against any good competition.

Rocky Juarez doesnt belong at 130 and his recent fights there prove that, his 1 punch knockout power isnt there like it was at 126, either way, if Juarez could get to morales hed likely hurt him at this point in his career and with Morales tendency to trade, Juarez could put a bad hurting on him.

[Boofdatruth]

This is so ******, when Manny fought the Mexican Trio they were just barely out of their Primes, no more than Hagler was against Leonard. Manny has one of the best resumes out there and he fought in one of the deepest divisions of all time.

The fights he picked were simply the best at the time and some very very good fighters.

Sure Morales beat him the first time, but Manny knocked him out 2 times. Manny got BETTER in the next fight, Morales didn't randomly get "worse". In the third fight, Morales was past it, in the second fight he obviously knew what he was in for and is no different than Manny underestimating Morales the first time.

Please, he fought those guys 7 times lol. Arum was in it for the money, and so was PAc. They threw a phony offer to Marquez knowing he wouldn't take and decided to bypass him because of how he came backl against PAc. They wanted to age Marquez. I'm glad Marquez turned out to be one of the best fighters I ever liked and kept his skill as he got older.