Manny Pacquiao: Has He Sold Out ? and Is He Really The Best Pound For Pound?

[Eaner0919]

I am at a loss for words. I have no choice but to assume that everyone who posts here with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in their avatar generally does not follow boxing, but only Floyd Mayweather Jr. At least, from my experience here, it seems that way. No wonder boxing has gone down hill.

I agree for the most part. I mean some here can really go into detail about Mayweather but once it involves other aspects such as comparision to other fighters they tend to lose steam such as saying the writer has a case because Manny fought the same Mexican for his entire career.

[Vasyl’s dad]

a big LOL. pac has been the one who moved up in weight all the time. after beating the best at 122, he moved up and took on the best at 126 in marco and beat him to a pulp. how can u complain? faced jmm a couple fights later and move up to 130 to face the bigger EM. who else did that, took on the 3 best in those division in more than a year only? and at 135, took on the bulkier and bigger diaz.

the only ones i see agreeing w/ this article are pbf nuthuggers and xcaret, mayansun and ferocity

bu, but, he didn't face any Blacks or americans.


Don't you get it? To be properly accredited one MUST beat a Black or an american.

Doesn't matter if they have qualified fighters in the division or not.

You just HAVE to.

[cortdawg25]

You don't even read the **** you post?


Why didn't Floyd fight a prime welterweight? How come he didn't fight Margarito? Cotto? Will he fight Williams or Clottey?


I don't get what you're saying because its a crock of ****.

U LEFT OFF THIS PART

it must be stated, has beaten no top American fighters and has squared off with no pure boxers; in particular, "Black" fighters--Latin, African, or American. Names that immediately come to mind are Joan Guzman, Nate Campbell, Joel Casamayor, Zahir Raheem

[Vasyl’s dad]

U LEFT OFF THIS PART

it must be stated, has beaten no top American fighters and has squared off with no pure boxers; in particular, "Black" fighters--Latin, African, or American. Names that immediately come to mind are Joan Guzman, Nate Campbell, Joel Casamayor, Zahir Raheem

Black generally encompasses all ethnicities if there isn't one listed.

Water on the head
grow a brain.


btw, is Floyd ever going to fight a prime welter? Or are you going to continue to base his p4p standing on what he did in 2003?

[Patrick Bateman]

And I Believe This Article Was About Manny And His Greatness, Not Floyd. There Are Plenty Of Articles Criticizing And Defending Floyd's P4p Status. Not So Many For Pacman

The problem is that this thread is made by you. Let me repeat that, this thread is made by you. I am more than confident that you are a Floyd Mayweather fan or that he is your favorite fighter. So for you to make a thread where you agree that Pacquiao has only faced certain fighters because it was a more lucrative or easier path and criticize him for doing so, well, that would be like a Catholic Priest preaching against ******ing children. You are in no position to fee like your opinion will be considered when you wont admit to your favorite fighters most unpopular decisions.

[cortdawg25]

a Big Lol. Pac Has Been The One Who Moved Up In Weight All The Time. After Beating The Best At 122, He Moved Up And Took On The Best At 126 In Marco And Beat Him To A Pulp. How Can U Complain? Faced Jmm A Couple Fights Later And Move Up To 130 To Face The Bigger Em. Who Else Did That, Took On The 3 Best In Those Division In More Than A Year Only? And At 135, Took On The Bulkier And Bigger Diaz.

The Only Ones I See Agreeing W/ This Article Are Pbf Nuthuggers And Xcaret, Mayansun And Ferocity

Didn't He Weigh More Than All Of Them On The Night Of The Fight. Just Because He Moved Up In Weight Doesn't Mean He Was The Smaller Man Or Else Oscar Would Have Been The Smaller Man In Most Of His Fights. U Really Think David Diaz Was Bigger Than Pacman...u See That Fight?

[Left Hook Tua]

Pacman Could Have Fought Raheem Instead Fighting Morales For The 2nd Time, But He Wanted To Get Revenge. Cool, I'm Ok With That. Instead Of Fighting Morales For Third Time, He Could Fought Guzman. The Barrera Rematch Shouldn't Have Happened. He Should Have Fought Jmm At That Time.

And I Believe This Article Was About Manny And His Greatness, Not Floyd. There Are Plenty Of Articles Criticizing And Defending Floyd's P4p Status. Not So Many For Pacman

why the **** would he fight raheem?

raheem was at 135 you ****ing moron. he didn't jump to 135 'til 3 months ago.

barrera and later marquez had the wbc belt at 130. what ****ing belt did zahir have?

so instead of staying at 130 waiting for a chance at the 130 belt you want him to go after zahir for no belt?

the money is in fighting erik , marco and juan. the prestige is in fighting erik , marco and juan. the interest (fan wise) is in fighting erik , marco and juan.

why the hell would he fight a nobody like zahir raheem?

[Eaner0919]

Pacman Could Have Fought Raheem Instead Fighting Morales For The 2nd Time, But He Wanted To Get Revenge. Cool, I'm Ok With That.

no you're not or else you wouldn't have mentioned it now.....TWICE.

you really REAAAAAALLLY think Manny was going to fight Raheem instead Erik?

Instead Of Fighting Morales For Third Time, He Could Fought Guzman.

actually no he couldn't have. Joan first off fought in an eliminator with Chato Jaregui for the right to face Barrios for the WBO strap on the undcard of Barrera Juarez II in Sept of 2006. Manny fought Erik the third time in 11/06. Couldn't have happened my man. Also take into account Guzman's good relationship with the WBO and I have no doubt he wanted to fight for that belt.

The Barrera Rematch Shouldn't Have Happened. He Should Have Fought Jmm At That Time.

agree for the most part but politics, NOT MANNY, got involved in this remember? This was the fight that brought Top Rank and GBP back into dealing with each other again and for GBP it was a great way to appease Barrera who had been unhappy with the way he felt he was treated during the JMM fight.

And I Believe This Article Was About Manny And His Greatness, Not Floyd. There Are Plenty Of Articles Criticizing And Defending Floyd's P4p Status. Not So Many For Pacman

but who was the #1 beforehand? So can't we use Mr Mayweather in comparison considering he was Manny's predecessor? I mean didn't we do that to Mayweather IN COMPARISON to Hopkins? didn't we question Hopkins run of middleweight nobodies post Tito?

cmon man I got to believe you are better than this.

[Left Hook Tua]

Didn't He Weigh More Than All Of Them On The Night Of The Fight. Just Because He Moved Up In Weight Doesn't Mean He Was The Smaller Man Or Else Oscar Would Have Been The Smaller Man In Most Of His Fights. U Really Think David Diaz Was Bigger Than Pacman...u See That Fight?

did you see the fight? diaz looked like he was on 'roids.

just because manny koed him doesn't mean he was the bigger man.

[shadeyfizzle]

Counterpoint1 - After the draw Marquez was offered 750,000$ for an immediate rematch with Pacman. Marquez declines to fight Chris John for 30,000 and loses his belt

Counterpoints 2,3 - The Morales loss to Raheem was at 135, and have no bearings in his performance at 130. Even in their past prime state they werent exactly shot. What other fighter besides each other would have been able to beat Barrera or Morales at 130 at the time???

The ring 130 rankings going into the Morales rubbermatch looked like this
Champipn =Barrera
1. Pacquiao
2. Morales
3. Juarez