Goossen Blasts Margarito Over De La Hoya-Williams Jab

[CottoOverrated1]

What makes Margs more known than Wiliams, the Cotto fight? Nobody is trying to get at Margs unless he has a name opponent. Who cares what a friend of your did lol. My boy held up a Margs pic at the last Wednesday and Friday before the olympics, and nobody knew who he was either lol. One fight and you think Margs is Dlh ppv material lol. You know who Williams is lol. Why do you keep making sorry excuses for why Margs is not fighting Williams???

just stop it, boof. stop beating it over the head of these marga******s. nothing will make them change their mind. they hate paul willaims and despise him more than Cortez. they are riding high right now and want to milk the cotto victory for all its worth. one more fight with the punisher and its all over for them. i just find it sad they have become the business fans they hated on so much. Margarito fans are the Mayweather fans of 2008.

[Eaner0919]

Thats why I hope you can talk some sense into some of these *******s...They dont realize how dumb they sound...If I remember correctly...I think it was trusted who called Williams a coward..Ok so let me get this straight If Williams is such a coward what does tha makes Margorito? I always try to get an explanation for that comment but he never answers it! Saying stuff like kinda ****s on Margorito if you ask me...Now thats not being a true fan at all...Like you said its being a fanatic!

funny this is the same guy who genuinely looked geeked whenever I mentioned the Pavlik fight. You could tell PWill wanted that fight. He said after Peterson told him it was jsut about done he went to the gym because he couldn't contain himself.

yeah thats a coward alright

[dansweeney]

lol I knew this would happen

lets see

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his robe and trunks from the Santos rematch.

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my team jacket from the williams fight

I also have the team jacket fromt he Cintron II fight as well if you would like to snap a pic of it.

been following him when no one knew. See to me when I became a fan of his he embodied the "hey I just want to the fight the best to prove I belong" attitude I liked. It's something he kept saying to whoever and to me he should abide by that now that he finally got his shot at fighting the best. He should go with his word and fight the best. That's Paul Williams and no it's not debatable.

you bring up the point about Arum but to me it's more about convenience than blaming Arum. At a time when he needed Bob to promote him the mantra "I will fight whoever Bob puts in front of me" held true because he needed Bob to help him

now? Tony just fought and beat the biggest fish at 147. You don't think with that he gets a little more say in what he wants next? It's funny how they will use the term "I will fight whoever" then call out Oscar dont you think?

Tony is not getting Oscar so now what? fight Clottey? why?

tell me why should he fight Clottey?

why?

point taken sir. here's my scenario. i think williams should fight clottey and marg should fight berto or anybody else who's a tough matchup on an hbo double header and then ppv fight after they win. now that marg has some value and name recognition he should maximize that. i think he will beat williams in a rematch but it will be a ***** of a fight. cause we both know if he loses to williams in his very next fight,. no one else will fight him again and he's not getting any younger here. let the man make some money. its not like he is mayweather who got a 20 mil payday. he only made 1.5 for cotto. im a fan of tony's as a boxer and as a person and id like him to make some loot to be set for life,. he's earned that right i believe. he's 30 williams is 26 and has more years left, you can't do battle like tony does and keep going forever. give him and interim fight and then lets do it.

[muppetman]

MARGARITO IS THE FUCCCING MAN! GET OVER IT YOU LITTLE BITCHES....THE MAN WORKED HARD TO GET THEIR HARDER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER WELTERWEIGHT CUZ HE TOOK ASS WHOOPINS TO GET THEIR HE DIDINT JUST CRUISE OFF HIS NAME!!!!

[CottoOverrated1]

Haters Come In Every Color, Size And Shape! And Just In Case You Bitches Didn't Know "margarito Is The Champ" Putos!!! So Pw And Team Will Just Have To Wait And Bring A Lunch While They At It.. Cause This Is The Tornados Time... Viva Tijuana Putos!!!

nope margarito is a titlist, puto. he has even less of a claim to his divisional crown than Wladimir does with the Heavyweights. At least Wlad has two titles(I know Marg should have two and he should after Clottey), and Wlad already beat the guy that is ranked number 2 below him. Margarito lost to the number 2 guy just last year. i dont see no red,white, and blue belt around Tony's waist. How you like them apples? I'm chewin on your girls *******.

[Luciano]

LMAO rogelio said he is a margarito fan? wtf cmonmang exposed the **** outta him! rogelio is not a margarito fan he was before dissing margarito saying floyd jr would mop his ass and that he aint on floyds level now he is singing praises and waving his mexican flag after margarito beats cotto?

this dude is wack.

Hahahaha are you serious?? So the guy is phony in every sense of the word. What a ****in joke.

[3punch]

. And Cotto would never fight Williams. That's why Williams never fought him. You don't know ****.

Source?

[Luciano]

TRANSLATION:

-ROGELIO- AIN'T GOT ****





And I'll tell you another thing.


You putting me on blast for the quality of loyalty is a ****ing joke.
You mock people for riding out and throwing down for they friends? That just shows your true character.

Donato is a brother of mine. Up in this or out in the real world.



Newsflash. Not everybody need to go round presenting theyself as a venal, ****-stirring ****sucker.

Except for cowards who lead a boring life like Rogelio and obsess over people online

[Eaner0919]

point taken sir. here's my scenario. i think williams should fight clottey and marg should fight berto or anybody else who's a tough matchup on an hbo double header and then ppv fight after they win. now that marg has some value and name recognition he should maximize that. i think he will beat williams in a rematch but it will be a ***** of a fight. cause we both know if he loses to williams in his very next fight,. no one else will fight him again and he's not getting any younger here. let the man make some money. its not like he is mayweather who got a 20 mil payday. he only made 1.5 for cotto.

all good this debate was more to the people who **** on PWill

here is my thinking as to why a PWill match needs to happen if not now then by early 09

who's left at 147?

Clottey? he beat him already
Cotto? he probably wont be mentioned with Tony until summer of 09
Mosley? maybe but in all honesty that fight only does well locally in LA

so if he stands by his own mantra of wanting the chance for big names then

PWill is the only name that is there with some meaning

his capitalization of making the most money he can while he has a chance only increases if he rematches and beats PWill (which I think he does as well). Think about it

4 mil for PWill and he wins
now is the welterweight champ

his status as elite is now soldified meaning he can call the shots. So now instead of taking the short ends of the stick for fights with the elite he can now pull in a better % against guys like Mosley or Cotto. Hell a third fight with PWill could do even better numbers if the rematch is a good one

all because he beats PWill in a rematch

see IMO they are seeing quick buck in fighting a Clottey for say 1 million if that. He fights Clottey and wins who really cares? Especially if its going to be on a TR PPV where me Rogelio Viva and the Tony haters are the only ones watching.

he rematches PWill for 4. His stock rises in victory now he can go to HBO with a flat amount of who he fights and how much he gets. Then mega matchups with Mosley and Cotto give him more potential earning power

see?

[adrsan84]

all good this debate was more to the people who **** on PWill

here is my thinking as to why a PWill match needs to happen if not now then by early 09

who's left at 147?

Clottey? he beat him already
Cotto? he probably wont be mentioned with Tony until summer of 09
Mosley? maybe but in all honesty that fight only does well locally in LA

so if he stands by his own mantra of wanting the chance for big names then

PWill is the only name that is there with some meaning

his capitalization of making the most money he can while he has a chance only increases if he rematches and beats PWill (which I think he does as well). Think about it

4 mil for PWill and he wins
now is the welterweight champ

his status as elite is now soldified meaning he can call the shots. So now instead of taking the short ends of the stick for fights with the elite he can now pull in a better % against guys like Mosley or Cotto. Hell a third fight with PWill could do even better numbers if the rematch is a good one

all because he beats PWill in a rematch

see IMO they are seeing quick buck in fighting a Clottey for say 1 million if that. He fights Clottey and wins who really cares? Especially if its going to be on a TR PPV where me Rogelio Viva and the Tony haters are the only ones watching.

he rematches PWill for 4. His stock rises in victory now he can go to HBO with a flat amount of who he fights and how much he gets. Then mega matchups with Mosley and Cotto give him more potential earning power

see?

I agree.

But I do see a potential value in rematching Clottey, since Clottey now has the IBF belt which shouldn't be too relevant but it gives him more bargaining power and gets him out of the way. At the same time, the deal that goosen sent to Arum would have set the fight in 2009 anyway while Williams got his mandatory (jennings) out of the way.

The way I see it there are no obstacles to the fight happening in the timeline you propose and goosen had envisioned, I just wish Williams' mandatory was someone a bit tougher so he could use it a a better stake at the crown as the best at 147 and make it so that Arum had no way to defend not fighting him in 09.