How Do You Beat Calzaghe?

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  • abadger
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    #11
    Originally posted by T-97
    B Hop with more stamina.
    Hopkins never could have beaten Calzaghe IMO.

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    • TheGreatAli
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      #12
      The only boxer in the past 10 years who could beat Joe is a Prime Jones.

      Prime Jones was unearthly though.

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      • Silencers
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        #13
        Originally posted by abadger
        You and a lot of people say a counterpuncher, but I have to say I tend to disagree, unless that counterpuncher is an extremely unusual one with very high output or extremely destructive power.

        In general I think waiting for opportunities to land counterpunches against calzaghe is a ticket to a decision loss, because Calzaghe will keep coming at you and return mutiple shots. His opponent will tend to have less opportunity to counter than he will have requirement to defend, exactly as happened in the Hopkins fight.

        My view is that basically the answer is Roy Jones. Someone capable of staying right on the outside and keeping Calzaghe at distance, with better foot and handspeed than Calzaghe would have an excellent chance.

        Another option is a simple one, a boxer who can truly hurt calzaghe in the inevitable exchanges, but this is true probably for any boxer.
        Not necessarily.

        Robin Reid was not exactly a high output kind of fighter but he managed to land counter right hands and give Calzaghe a lot of problems in their fight. I think if a counterpuncher who can pick his spots and land the cleaner more effective shots consistently would be able to win on the scorecards, of course his workrate would have to be respectable but it doesn't necessarily have to be high.

        Hopkins' workrate was not high enough, he threw something like 35 punches per round, that's a very low workrate.

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        • TheGreatAli
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          #14
          Originally posted by abadger
          Hopkins never could have beaten Calzaghe IMO.
          Exactly. Old Joe beat old Hopkins.

          It would always be a close fight but I always see Joe winning, especially @ 168.

          A Hopkins who weighed 8 lbs more than Calzaghe lost to him by 6 rounds on one card.

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          • TheGreatAli
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            #15
            Originally posted by Silencers
            Not necessarily.

            Robin Reid was not exactly a high output kind of fighter but he managed to land counter right hands and give Calzaghe a lot of problems in their fight. I think if a counterpuncher who can pick his spots and land the cleaner more effective shots consistently would be able to win on the scorecards, of course his workrate would have to be respectable but it doesn't necessarily have to be high.

            Hopkins' workrate was not high enough, he threw something like 35 punches per round, that's a very low workrate.

            Calzaghe broke his hand in that fight and he wasn't all there.

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            • Silencers
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              #16
              Originally posted by JC#1

              Calzaghe broke his hand in that fight and he wasn't all there.
              It wasn't just the Reid fight that he got hit with counter right hands, Mitchell landed a huge right hand, credit to Calzaghe for coming back like he did, Eubank landed right hands, Hopkins landed right hands etc.

              And even with a broken hand, he shouldn't have had that much difficulty with Reid.

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              • Pugilistic™
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                #17
                Great defense, good lateral movement, good workrate, accurate counter punching. Basically a prime Hopkins.

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                • Flawless
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                  #18
                  WOW, he is making Calzaghe sound unbeatable. Great chin when an old man can knock you down. Hopkins with stamina will easily beat Calzaghe.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Flawless
                    WOW, he is making Calzaghe sound unbeatable. Great chin when an old man can knock you down. Hopkins with stamina will easily beat Calzaghe.
                    he wouldn't beat him easy but he would beat him.

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                    • T-97
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      Hopkins never could have beaten Calzaghe IMO.
                      I disagree, But i wasn't refering to Hopkins specifcally, Just someone who fights in that kind of style with the stamina for 12 rounds.

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