Oscar De La Hoya vs. Paul Williams Being Considered?

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I disagree with this. The build up and hype job will be huge. Williams is the most feared man in boxing. The man Bob Arum refuses to do business with. Margarito won't fight him, and Williams while green made him look like an amateur. No WW will fight him. Cintron backed out, you never hear Cotto or Clottey or Judah talk about him. He's being forced to attempt MW fights and they still don't come off. His only loss was avenged brutally in 1 round. He's a huge WW and a freak of nature. He has charisma too. This fight will be huge.

Marketing would be out at full blast for a Williams-DLH fight but it still wouldn't do as good financially as Pacquiao-DLH IMO.

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Williams is definitely the better fight but he doesn't bring as much money as Pacquiao and a DLH-Williams fight would do less PPV buys as well.

Which is why we all know this is a big facade and I personally don't put it past FMjr to come out of all this. ODLH, while great for boxing, needs to stop this as when he leaves, he will leave a trail of this same bull**** and boxing DOES NOT need this nor does his career deserve it! Leave with your legacy intact Oscar, stop trying to fool even the average of fan into thinking you aren't living up to some master plan. Pick a God damn fight already!

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Marketing would be out at full blast for a Williams-DLH fight but it still wouldn't do as good financially as Pacquiao-DLH IMO.

thats the downside.
Pacman vs Oscar will be Huge moneywise.
A fight with williams or mora will not be as big.
Unless they aggressively push paul williams on a media tour and put him on every single talk **** like jay leno, letterman, regis, conan, jimmy, etc...and he has to do so much PR he wont have time to train.

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Which is why we all know this is a big facade and I personally don't put it past FMjr to come out of all this. ODLH, while great for boxing, needs to stop this as when he leaves, he will leave a trail of this same bull**** and boxing DOES NOT need this nor does his career deserve it! Leave with your legacy intact Oscar, stop trying to fool even the average of fan into thinking you aren't living up to some master plan. Pick a God damn fight already!

I think all this talk about other possible opponents is just to play hardball with Pacquiao, I think GBP are trying to make Pacquiao accept the 70-30 deal.

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Marketing would be out at full blast for a Williams-DLH fight but it still wouldn't do as good financially as Pacquiao-DLH IMO.

Yeah I agree, Pac-man is built up. But the size difference is a huge obstacle as far as taking it seriously in the mind of a mainstream fan. And Pacman barely drew 200k vs Diaz it's not like he's a PPV star himself. But you're right, he's definitely 100x more known to the mainstream fan then Williams. DLH fought guys like Quartey and Mosley when he was unknown, he has a history of doing this and taking on all comers. He fought Hopkins who was not a draw AT ALL which is even more dangerous. People just hate on him.

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delahoya has reasons not to fight margarito:

1. he is scared margarito will make his exit disgraceful;

2. he is afraid more mexicans will hate him more if he wins over margarito; though many
mexican boxing fans (except the ladies) already hate him;

3. he is unwilling to part with the bulk of the purse with margarito;

4. he want an easy fight.

[Luciano]

delahoya has reasons not to fight margarito:

1. he is scared margarito will make his exit disgraceful;

2. he is afraid more mexicans will hate him more if he wins over margarito; though many
mexican boxing fans (except the ladies) already hate him;

3. he is unwilling to part with the bulk of the purse with margarito;

4. he want an easy fight.

So Williams is an easier fight then Margarito?? Hahahahaha YEAH. That's why Margarito is avoiding him like the plague

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thats the downside.
Pacman vs Oscar will be Huge moneywise.
A fight with williams or mora will not be as big.
Unless they aggressively push paul williams on a media tour and put him on every single talk **** like jay leno, letterman, regis, conan, jimmy, etc...and he has to do so much PR he wont have time to train.

Yeah, they would have to do massive PR for the fight to do the numbers that DLH would want for his retirement fight.

And you're right, internationally, a Pacquiao-DLH fight would do much better.

Yeah I agree, Pac-man is built up. But the size difference is a huge obstacle as far as taking it seriously in the mind of a mainstream fan. And Pacman barely drew 200k vs Diaz it's not like he's a PPV star himself. But you're right, he's definitely 100x more known to the mainstream fan then Williams. DLH fought guys like Quartey and Mosley when he was unknown, he has a history of doing this and taking on all comers. He fought Hopkins who was not a draw AT ALL which is even more dangerous. People just hate on him.

Exactly, people know Pacquiao, he did do 500k against Marquez so he can do well at the box office with a known opponent.

I think he had a different mindset when he fought guys like Mosley, Quartey and Hopkins, his mindset now is much more money oriented, he's more businessman than fighter.

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3. he is unwilling to part with the bulk of the purse with margarito.

He is unwilling to bugde on the purse talks with ANYONE! Given all he's done in his last 5 or so fights, or hasn't done for that matter, why does he think he can continually steam roll people out of MILLIONS? Why? Because he can. THAT is what I don't like about ODLH and this will almost certainly be the taste he leaves in most fans mouths given the way he is treating this "farewell" fight. (The taste thing was all gayness aside lol) I just hope he picks a credible opponent and goes out the way his career deserves him to go out.

[Luciano]

Yeah, they would have to do massive PR for the fight to do the numbers that DLH would want for his retirement fight.

And you're right, internationally, a Pacquiao-DLH fight would do much better.



Exactly, people know Pacquiao, he did do 500k against Marquez so he can do well at the box office with a known opponent.

I think he had a different mindset when he fought guys like Mosley, Quartey and Hopkins, his mindset now is much more money oriented, he's more businessman than fighter.

Haha once again you're right bro. It definitely does look like he's changed. We'll see though. I tell you this, if he does fight Williams, DLH has bigtime guts (which I already knew he had). Doing stuff like that is huge for the sport, because one of the best future stars (Williams) was being shut out by Arum and his WW monopoly.