if jmm beats casa convincingly...

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I agree, Marquez is a much better fighter than he get's credit for. If he had a solid chin he'd be unbeatable.

juanma's chin is solid. the 1st fight he was surprised by manny's handspeed. he wasn't ready for it.

the 2nd fight almost everyone from 122-130 and more than a few 135 guys would've gone down from that counter he got caught with. not many would've gotten up either.

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We need a puertorican JuamMa fan in this thread to get it really cracking.

that lopez kid will unify 122 and 126 watch.

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I just dont see Marquez getting any higher than #3p4p regardless. I mean you could argue that he beat Pacquiao twice but you could argue the opposite also. You could also argue that he lost to Barrera so that would mean he'd only be 2-2 in his last 4 fights by beating Casa

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juanma's chin is solid. the 1st fight he was surprised by manny's handspeed. he wasn't ready for it.

the 2nd fight almost everyone from 122-130 and more than a few 135 guys would've gone down from that counter he got caught with. not many would've gotten up either.

I completely agree. His chin is very solid.
His brother was always the one who people thought had a weak chin.
Juan Manuel, for being so skilled, took some risks, got caught and got up.
How could you doubt someone who went down three times in the first fight, and damn well almost won that first fight

It's not how many times you fall down, it's how many times you get up.
And then win rounds.