We are comparing resumes here people, not accomplishments, skills, longevity. Resumes - who you beat and how good they were when you beat them. On this topic there is only one correct answer IMO. Hopkins resume is clearly superior. In other debates Calzaghe would be favoured, but not in relation to resumes.
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Originally posted by Terrible... View Postim sure there is a few names in their who would have unexpectedly given Calzaghe problems
Dela Hoya ,Ronald Wright,Antonio Tarver there are plenty of diverse styles on Hopkins resume that could have troubled Calzaghe you may laugh at the Dela Hoya one but lets remeber Oscar is a top fighter and he was outboxing Hopkins for my money untill the stoppage which was a body shot not a head shot
do you think Calzaghe would still be undefeated had he faced the men Hopkins has cause i dont not one bit most of Calzaghe's oponents are aggresive fighters there are not many technical fighters like Winky and Tarver ,ODLH i think Winky would take Calzaghe to school TBH ?
i know u think Kessler is technical but i dont think he is
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Originally posted by abadger View PostI think Calzaghe would have gone through them all without too much difficulty. Tarver would be a difficult fight (if Tarver did actually fight!) and Winky wouldn't get humiliated, but I wouldn't give him much hope, he does too little for one thing. Trinidad and ODLH would be too small. I'd give Kessler as good a chance against Hop as any of them against Joe, think of the Jones fight, the way Jones stayed on the outside and darted in and out, Kessler could do something similar. I could imagine Bernard mauling Kessler to death too though.
Since I haven't seen Hyperion reply to this, I will. You say his does to little? Does that include throwing over 1000 punches against Ike Quartey and hunting down Jermain Taylor? I think Calzaghe would win now, but prime for prime, that'd be a very tough fight for Calzaghe.
Bernard would beat Kessler because Kessler doesn't adapt well...or at all.
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Originally posted by abadger View PostI think Calzaghe would have gone through them all without too much difficulty. Tarver would be a difficult fight (if Tarver did actually fight!) and Winky wouldn't get humiliated, but I wouldn't give him much hope, he does too little for one thing. Trinidad and ODLH would be too small. I'd give Kessler as good a chance against Hop as any of them against Joe, think of the Jones fight, the way Jones stayed on the outside and darted in and out, Kessler could do something similar. I could imagine Bernard mauling Kessler to death too though.
Calzaghe has never faced a Southpaw with the as good a defence as Winky and a great jab
he has also never faced a counter puncher as good as Tarver who is a lefty with power
Oscar's lack of size was not the reason Hopkins beat him IMO
Kessler would not last 5 minutes with Hopkins at the age Calzaghe was when he fought him infact it would get quite himiliating for Kessler cause Hopkins is way to defensively skilled for a naive fighter like Kessler
its simple Joe just aint fought the mutlitude of styles or quality Hopkins has and thats why he is still unbeaten
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Originally posted by Terrible... View Postu did not answer my question i said do you think he would still be undefeated ?
Calzaghe has never faced a Southpaw with the as good a defence as Winky and a great jab
he has also never faced a counter puncher as good as Tarver who is a lefty with power
Oscar's lack of size was not the reason Hopkins beat him IMO
Kessler would not last 5 minutes with Hopkins at the age Calzaghe was when he fought him infact it would get quite himiliating for Kessler cause Hopkins is way to defensively skilled for a naive fighter like Kessler
its simple Joe just aint fought the mutlitude of styles or quality Hopkins has and thats why he is still unbeaten
I think the reason he's undefeated is because he's a very good boxer who is very hard to beat.
Haha.
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Originally posted by warp1432 View PostSince I haven't seen Hyperion reply to this, I will. You say his does to little? Does that include throwing over 1000 punches against Ike Quartey and hunting down Jermain Taylor? I think Calzaghe would win now, but prime for prime, that'd be a very tough fight for Calzaghe.
Bernard would beat Kessler because Kessler doesn't adapt well...or at all.
I agree Kessler would find Bernard a nightmare. Who doesn't?
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View PostI am kindly trying to prove a point to someone. When i said that Calzaghe has never beaten a prime fighter that was on the pound for list the Hopkins has done for so many years, he says that pound for pound lists doesn't matter anymore and Hopkins only fought blown up welterweights. Then he talks up Kessler and Lacy land stated that they were better than anyone that Hopkins has beaten. Calzaghe is a very good fighter and one of my favorites but come on. I like this guy who said this but he is in over his head.
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Originally posted by abadger View PostI think Calzaghe would beat all of them, definitely, and would be undefeated.
I think the reason he's undefeated is because he's a very good boxer who is very hard to beat.
Haha.
you are seriously delusional abadger and baised
Calzaghe aint as good as Hopkins so i dont see how you come to the conclusion he would have stayed undefeated i know you think Calzaghe is a better fighter than Hopkins but that just goes to show how delusional you are when you view there recent fight , most people come to the conlusion that Hopkins lack of activity was why he did not win the fight and that was clearly due to age
but you think that is a sufficicent reason to think Calzaghe beats him in his prime aswell when he stuggled badly enough with the 43 year old version
that is an unconventional point if view to say the least
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