Who makes boxing look bad, Vitaly or Mike ?

[TheGreat1]

Time will show. Vitaly's next mandatory defense is against Toney. Beating means clear winning. Neither LL nor Byrd clearly beat Vitaly. The LL vs Vit was an equal battle and it's too bad Vit got cut by tangential blows. It's too bad for both LL and Vit. Byrd was clearly loosing before Vit retired on injury. So it did not look like a legitimate beating at all. An example of clear, legitimate beating is the outcome of Hopkins vs Golden Boy.

A legitimate beating is when you beat someone so bad that they can't continue because there eye is closed and they can no longer see because of all the blood and the fight has to be stopped. LL would have killed VK if the fight would have continued. VK was a beating fighter just look at his face

[Winter]

A rematch between Lennox Lewis and Vitali would have been a fun and great fight to watch.

[TheGreat1]

A rematch between Lennox Lewis and Vitali would have been a fun and great fight to watch.

yes it would have.

Winter, who is that on your aviator?

[Nautilus]

A legitimate beating is when you beat someone so bad that they can't continue because there eye is closed and they can no longer see because of all the blood and the fight has to be stopped. LL would have killed VK if the fight would have continued. VK was a beating fighter just look at his face

Well, by this criterion you are right, of course. However,
I never like when a fight is stopped on cuts. Ugly cuts are never caused by clean, legitimate punching. Somehow stoppage on cuts does not seem right; it seems plain ugly. I think that they should use some light head-gear in order to prevent cuts, but not knockouts.

[Neuraxis]

So much for Lewis collapsing onto his stool inbetween rounds and stumbling all over the place back to his dressing room after the fight. So much for him only winning the 4th round on 1 scorecard, the 5th round on 1 scorecard, and the 6th round on 2 scorecards. The numbers don't lie:

Klitschko
Jabs: 77/240
Power: 79/192
Total: 156/432

Lewis
Jabs: 52/120
Power: 50/102
Total: 102/222

[TheGreat1]

Well, by this criterion you are right, of course. However,
I never like when a fight is stopped on cuts. Ugly cuts are never caused by clean, legitimate punching. Somehow stoppage on cuts does not seem right; it seems plain ugly. I think that they should use some light head-gear in order to prevent cuts, but not knockouts.

the one that started the cut may not have been clean, but it was legal, but all the ones after that where clean including the onse that busted his lip. VK was ****ed up, LL focused on that cut and exposed it, that y he was such a great fighter, there is no way VK would have made it through 3 more rounds

[Nautilus]

the one that started the cut may not have been clean, but it was legal ... LL focused on that cut and exposed it

That's why it was ugly. It was definitely legal, but not moral. It just feels wrong to try to ``expose" the cuts obtained by unclean punching in the first place.

[TheGreat1]

So much for Lewis collapsing onto his stool inbetween rounds and stumbling all over the place back to his dressing room after the fight. So much for him only winning the 4th round on 1 scorecard, the 5th round on 1 scorecard, and the 6th round on 2 scorecards. The numbers don't lie:

Klitschko
Jabs: 77/240
Power: 79/192
Total: 156/432

Lewis
Jabs: 52/120
Power: 50/102
Total: 102/222

numbers are nise, but don't mean ****. Look how bad Moorer out punched foreman, and look at the end result, or better yet look had Brewster and wlad. Landing alot of punches don't mean **** if they are waek. LL punches although fewer where much more effective.

[Neuraxis]

That's nice and all but I don't see an utterly exhausted Lewis was going to "kill" Vitali.

[abdiel2k3]

Maybe what he meant to say was, Vitali is so big and good he makes the other heavyweight boxers look bad. I think Vitali makes others look like bad boxers. Vitali is very good.

yup that post confirms it for me
shes defintly one of tatyanas friends
just that this one like Vit more