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why does kessler get so much praise here?
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Originally posted by T-97 View PostI like how he mention Europe as if it's one country
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Originally posted by daggum View Postplease read all the posts before responding with idiotic statements. i was pointing out how germany and the uk are in fact in europe when someone said he wasn't a euro champ. those countries are in europe hence he is a euro champ. pretty simple.
To be honest, I can't be bothered to read this thread. Because i am sure it goes along with people arguing the same points over and over.
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Originally posted by abadger View PostI'm a Joe fan, and I like Kessler too. For me its very simple, he was the most talented pure boxer Calzaghe ever faced, he combines speed, power and skill. I enjoyed watching him fight so I went back and looked at some of his other fights and found some more excellent performances that indicate he is one of the top young boxers around. He KOd Beyer with one shot, he gave Andrade an incredible boxing lesson. Kessler's brand of clean crisp performance is something I'm not seeing from any other young boxer at the higher weights right now, so he's one of my favourite boxers.
To those who say that Joe fans only hype Kessler to make Joe look better, I say that while that may be true in some cases, its mostly wrong, because thinking that way presupposes that Kessler isn't actually any good. He is, he's the top guy at SMW and proved it by taking everyone elses belts up until he met Joe. You only have to look at him to see the amount of potential he has and what a difficult prospect he would be for anyone at SMW/ LHW.
He's not without flaws and its easy to understand why some feel Hopkins is a better win, because of all Hopkins achievements, but Kessler is the young prime champion that Calzaghe needed to get onto the US radar. The manner in which Calzaghe defeated Kessler is always going to make that fight a favourite with Joe fans.
Btw., I agree on most points of your comment right here. What is your feelings towards Pavlik? I would like to hear that.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postplease read all the posts before responding with idiotic statements. i was pointing out how germany and the uk are in fact in europe when someone said he wasn't a euro champ. those countries are in europe hence he is a euro champ. pretty simple.
And Pavlik among several others is a US champ?
Those guys appanrently doesn't have the heart to face hostile sorroundings? Was that your point?
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Originally posted by daggum View Postplease read all the posts before responding with idiotic statements. i was pointing out how germany and the uk are in fact in europe when someone said he wasn't a euro champ. those countries are in europe hence he is a euro champ. pretty simple.
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Originally posted by abadger View PostI'm a Joe fan, and I like Kessler too. For me its very simple, he was the most talented pure boxer Calzaghe ever faced, he combines speed, power and skill. I enjoyed watching him fight so I went back and looked at some of his other fights and found some more excellent performances that indicate he is one of the top young boxers around. He KOd Beyer with one shot, he gave Andrade an incredible boxing lesson. Kessler's brand of clean crisp performance is something I'm not seeing from any other young boxer at the higher weights right now, so he's one of my favourite boxers.
To those who say that Joe fans only hype Kessler to make Joe look better, I say that while that may be true in some cases, its mostly wrong, because thinking that way presupposes that Kessler isn't actually any good. He is, he's the top guy at SMW and proved it by taking everyone elses belts up until he met Joe. You only have to look at him to see the amount of potential he has and what a difficult prospect he would be for anyone at SMW/ LHW.
He's not without flaws and its easy to understand why some feel Hopkins is a better win, because of all Hopkins achievements, but Kessler is the young prime champion that Calzaghe needed to get onto the US radar. The manner in which Calzaghe defeated Kessler is always going to make that fight a favourite with Joe fans.
if so in what way?
i'm not a huge dawson fan but i find it funny that he gets so overlooked...
kessler clearly showed his limited ability against joe, not only because of joe's skill but his complete inability to adapt and his lack of versatility showed..
he is definetly strong but is he stronger than pav or dawson?
he's not even young in boxing terms.. he'll be 30 by the next time he fights whereas pavilk and dawson are 26!!!
thisw is what they mean when they talk about padded european resume's
and he defintetly isn't chasing another elite fighter in the near future
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Originally posted by sitai View Postdo you consider him to be more skilled than pavlik and dawson who are both younger more accomplished fighters?
if so in what way?
i'm not a huge dawson fan but i find it funny that he gets so overlooked...
kessler clearly showed his limited ability against joe, not only because of joe's skill but his complete inability to adapt and his lack of versatility showed..
he is definetly strong but is he stronger than pav or dawson?
he's not even young in boxing terms.. he'll be 30 by the next time he fights whereas pavilk and dawson are 26!!!
thisw is what they mean when they talk about padded european resume's
and he defintetly isn't chasing another elite fighter in the near future
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