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Originally posted by sparked_85 View PostI disagree I think Khan is the more talented by quite a distance. Still good though we need a decent middleweight!
I'm sure his life will change now, will he step straight into Amir Khan's ITV shoes?
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What gets me is when people degrade amateur records and shrug it off as though amateur boxing is somehow soft. "Oh it's only about scoring points, it's pitter pat punching" etc. Anyone who reaches the olympics has had dozens of fights, made dozens of tournaments, fought in Legion clubs and sports halls and had many many people trying to cave their faces in. It doesn't matter whether you're scoring points or scoring knockouts, you're still hitting your opponent, and you're still hitting them as hard as the situation will allow. Sure a snappy jab scores the same as a big haymaker which is why amateur coaching emphasizes straight fast punching, but if I see an opening to take someone's block off I'm not going to throw out a little love-tap, I'm punching my opponent's chin off his face.
Besides which the more you can hurt your opponent the less punches get thrown back at you and the easier it is to outland them.
I get the impression that the people who degrade amateur boxing are the ones who have never tried it. Boxing is hard and tough whether you're wearing headgear or not.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostWhat gets me is when people degrade amateur records and shrug it off as though amateur boxing is somehow soft. "Oh it's only about scoring points, it's pitter pat punching" etc. Anyone who reaches the olympics has had dozens of fights, made dozens of tournaments, fought in Legion clubs and sports halls and had many many people trying to cave their faces in. It doesn't matter whether you're scoring points or scoring knockouts, you're still hitting your opponent, and you're still hitting them as hard as the situation will allow. Sure a snappy jab scores the same as a big haymaker which is why amateur coaching emphasizes straight fast punching, but if I see an opening to take someone's block off I'm not going to throw out a little love-tap, I'm punching my opponent's chin off his face.
Besides which the more you can hurt your opponent the less punches get thrown back at you and the easier it is to outland them.
I get the impression that the people who degrade amateur boxing are the ones who have never tried it. Boxing is hard and tough whether you're wearing headgear or not.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostWhat gets me is when people degrade amateur records and shrug it off as though amateur boxing is somehow soft. "Oh it's only about scoring points, it's pitter pat punching" etc. Anyone who reaches the olympics has had dozens of fights, made dozens of tournaments, fought in Legion clubs and sports halls and had many many people trying to cave their faces in. It doesn't matter whether you're scoring points or scoring knockouts, you're still hitting your opponent, and you're still hitting them as hard as the situation will allow. Sure a snappy jab scores the same as a big haymaker which is why amateur coaching emphasizes straight fast punching, but if I see an opening to take someone's block off I'm not going to throw out a little love-tap, I'm punching my opponent's chin off his face.
Besides which the more you can hurt your opponent the less punches get thrown back at you and the easier it is to outland them.
I get the impression that the people who degrade amateur boxing are the ones who have never tried it. Boxing is hard and tough whether you're wearing headgear or not.
Look at Lomaschenko I'm pretty sure that guy could knock out Alex Arthur on his pro debut.
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Originally posted by Nicky_Hatton View PostDegale > Khan.Originally posted by Cocky Cockney View PostDo you really think so?
Originally posted by sparked_85 View PostI disagree I think Khan is the more talented by quite a distance. Still good though we need a decent middleweight!
I'm sure his life will change now, will he step straight into Amir Khan's ITV shoes?
Originally posted by msagrain View PostDegale over khan+pavlik together. haha
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