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  • THE REED
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    #11
    still, hes fighting a roy thats 2 months shy of 40, and a guy that will be fighting 10 pounds above his normal weight....

    its like every god damn fight, the opponent is either, unproven, too old, or blown up...

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    • azza21
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      #12
      It seems to me it doesn't matter what Joe Calslappy does he will never be respected on this American dominated forum because of that, he's not a yank. If he was a majority of the people on here would be shouting non stop about him.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #13
        If Calzaghe wants to make a statement, he'll beat Jones and then the winner of Dawson-Tarver. Throw in Pavlik too.

        But if it's Jones and done, he'll get NO respect for beating a shell of a once great fighter. Zero, zip, none. Which is why he won't retire.

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        • egreezy
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          #14
          Originally posted by azza21
          It seems to me it doesn't matter what Joe Calslappy does he will never be respected on this American dominated forum because of that, he's not a yank. If he was a majority of the people on here would be shouting non stop about him.
          If he beats Pavlik and Dawson, everyone would have to respect him. Until then NOOOO

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          • abadger
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            #15
            Originally posted by S.G.
            abadger, if Calzaghe sc****s past Jones Jr and loses comprehensively to Pavlik, what will you say?
            If he sc****s past Jones I won't be that surprised, because Joe has had some off-colour performances in his career, so it wouldn't be the first time. Also someone like Jones should know how to make Calzaghe look bad at the very least, so its quite possible we'll see a closer fight than I expect. I would be surprised though, Calzaghe should have far too much for Jones at this stage. I wouldn't revise my high opinion of Calzaghe, and would revise my opinion of todays Jones upwards.

            If he then went on to lose to Pavlik however, I would be very surprised, since I see no possible way that Calzaghe could do anthing other than thoroughly outclass Pavlik. If he were to lose whilst still appearing to have even half of his A game remaining I would have to say that I personally had overrated Joe. Obviously, if the fight happens and a losing Calzaghe looks like a shot fighter then obviously I will say so, but only if that really is the truth.

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            • Kris Silver
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              #16
              I pretty much agree. Roy may not be the prime fighter he was but he's not as past it as many make out, and he's a very skilled fighter regardless. He has the skill set to at least make it competitive, switch tactics up, make Calzaghe look bad and struggle for it. So it wouldn't surprise me. Whose out boxed Roy and looked great? Calzaghe will not be winning with a lucky big shot, or a big lethal shot period. He'll be outclassing a classy fighter.

              If he beat Pavlik and looked very good I think it'd be very good indeed for his reputation. Because it'd mean a very awkward Hopkins couldn't ruin Pavlik enough, yet Calzaghe could not only not get hit with more talent, but hit him and look good.

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              • abadger
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                #17
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                If Calzaghe wants to make a statement, he'll beat Jones and then the winner of Dawson-Tarver. Throw in Pavlik too.

                But if it's Jones and done, he'll get NO respect for beating a shell of a once great fighter. Zero, zip, none. Which is why he won't retire.
                Funny that in order for you to respect Calzaghe, he'd have to fight opponents than in all likelihood he never will. I agree with you that Tarver/ Dawson is a tougher fight on paper than Pavlik, but surely Joe's likely ability to beat Pavlik should not count against him, after all, Pavlik is more highly ranked than either of the others and is the definition of a live opponent.

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                • WESS
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  Lets say he beats Jones fairly comfortably, but doesn't look brilliant, then goes on to beat Kelly Pavlik and looks excellent, like he did against Kessler, what will you say then? How will you rate him?
                  Did you fall asleep at the computer again?????????

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                  • typeone
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                    #19
                    Joe has always been there for who ever wonts the fight people seem to forget this!! All I hear is he didnt fight this guy or that guy..Whats it all about?? The truth is other boxers were running scared in this division..We had Benn, Eubanks, Next we come out with a Joe Calzaghe who is better than them both IMO. If Jo fights Pavlik which I wish he wouldnt as he does not need this fight to prove anything in my book..And wins Then I would hold him in even higher asteam. I have total respect for Pavlik and you would be a fool not to
                    Last edited by typeone; 08-21-2008, 04:33 PM.

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                    • WESS
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                      #20
                      But to answer your question if he did what you said... I would be like damn he sucks! lol

                      naa I would be like "yup, he was good"....

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