Will you buy Pavlik-Hokins?

[nathanmania]

no......

[warp1432]

Warp do you seriously hold much hope for Bernard in this fight? I know you are picking him to win. Is it just you cannot pick against him or do you genuinely think he has a shot?

A little bit of both. Let's just say I wouldn't be shocked if Bernard loses or wins. I mean I can justify Bernard winning in a way. Like if I map it out and say why he would beat him I can.

Kelly is a lot slower then Joe (and Taylor) were and so his workrate could be lowered. Also Kelly doesn't have the best defense in the world as shown by Lockett landing some right hands on him in round 1. If Bernard potshots and uses the ring well I can see him taking it that way. We don't know how Kelly reacts in a clinch really either. Joe had the speed to fight out of it while Winky or Taylor didn't. I think Bernard has the tools there to pull off the upset.

I think it's obvious Bernard beats Kelly prime for prime though. I'll even say it's the middleweight version of Mayweather-Corrales.

[OTSS]

Sopcast is thy friend..

[βetamax]

Don't forget the undercard might turn out really well....

[warp1432]

Bernard Hopkins vs Kelly Pavlik 12 rounds
Juan Manuel Lopez vs TBA 12 rounds (JHONNY GONZALEZ PLEASE)
Steven Luevano vs Bernabe Conception 12 rounds

Not a bad card. Hopefully they'll add another fight to it.

[215Chaingang]

i''ll probably be there

[Dan...]

A little bit of both. Let's just say I wouldn't be shocked if Bernard loses or wins. I mean I can justify Bernard winning in a way. Like if I map it out and say why he would beat him I can.

Kelly is a lot slower then Joe (and Taylor) were and so his workrate could be lowered. Also Kelly doesn't have the best defense in the world as shown by Lockett landing some right hands on him in round 1. If Bernard potshots and uses the ring well I can see him taking it that way. We don't know how Kelly reacts in a clinch really either. Joe had the speed to fight out of it while Winky or Taylor didn't. I think Bernard has the tools there to pull off the upset.

I think it's obvious Bernard beats Kelly prime for prime though. I'll even say it's the middleweight version of Mayweather-Corrales.

I agree that prime for prime it isn't even close. I don't know, I just don't feel that Bernard has enough gas in the tank to sustain the punch output he would need to win the fight. You talk about using the ring and whilst I see your point I just don't think, at almost 44, he will have the stamina to do it over 12 rounds.

[warp1432]

I agree that prime for prime it isn't even close. I don't know, I just don't feel that Bernard has enough gas in the tank to sustain the punch output he would need to win the fight. You talk about using the ring and whilst I see your point I just don't think, at almost 44, he will have the stamina to do it over 12 rounds.

I thought his legs looked pretty good except for the last couple of rounds in the Joe fight. He was moving pretty well all around the ring and then tied him up and worked inside on the clinch. If Pavlik doesn't know how to work in the clinch and throw fast like Calzaghe did, then I think Hopkins as got it. Joe worked surprisingly well in the clinch since he looked not that good against Bika, a very dirty fighter.

[american legend]

Yes because Bernard is more exciting than Margarito.

[Spiegelo]

Yes because Bernard is more exciting than Margarito.

I'll tell you what, Bernard would knock Margarito the **** out! Ohhhh that's right I said it!