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  • Dambala
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    #51
    Toney vs Griffin I & II (The rematch was worst)
    Whitaker vs Chavez
    Santa Cruz vs Cassamayor
    Whitaker vs Ramirez
    Marquez vs John (home cooking)
    Mayweather vs Castillo I
    Marquez vs Pacquiao II (it was close but JMM won)
    Hatton vs Collazo
    Chavez vs Taylor ( the biggest robbery ever )

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    • BennyST
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      #52
      Originally posted by PrettyBoyFloyd7
      I think De La Hoya/Trinidad , Quartey/Forrest , Taylor/Chavez I (please dont take my head off), and most recently Holt/Torres II (that was a headbutt that had Torres KO'd on the ropes before that sucker punch right hand landed him on the floor)
      Out of all those, the only one that comes even slightly close to being a horrible robbery is Quartey against Forrest. All the rest were disputable, maybe even plain wrong, but none of them compare with a real robbery.

      There needs to be some kind of policing on this board for robbery threads. The 'Close Decision Non-Robbery Police'. A vicious bunch of authoritarian **** types that decide which fights can be talked about as being robberies, because the majority of fights that are talked here as robberies are not robberies at all.

      Anyway, enough of that. I think whenever you think a fight is a robbery, the first thing you need to do is review the fight without any sound. This helps to be completely objective, which, despite the fact you may think you already are, is often not the case. Especially if it's a fighter you like that loses. A fight is generally a robbery when it is universally recognised as an horrible, corrupt decision in which the fighter that won a minimum of three quarters of the fight easily was not given the decision.

      Some typical bad robberies are: the Whitaker fights (Ramirez and Chavez), Hearns/Leonard 2, Fenech/Nelson 1, Cruz/Casa, Augustus/Burton, Lewis/Holyfield, Louis/Walcott, Diamond/Huerta, Spinks/Holmes, Jones/Park, Hagler/Antofermo, Foreman/Briggs, Reid/Ottke etc etc.

      Some fights that are disputed but are not robberies are: Hoya/Trinidad, Hagler/Leonard (I personally think it was the correct decision. Bad scoring having Leonard winning by any more then one or two rounds at most, but Hagler lost it for himself by giving away the first few rounds being a ****), Pac/Marquez fights along with the Norwood and John fights for Martquez, Hatton/Collazo, Mayweather/Castillo 1, Toney/Griffin, Sturm/Oscar, Toney/Peter 1, Taylor/Chavez, Hoya/Whitaker and on and on and on.

      These aforementioned fights are not robberies! They were all close fights that could have been scored quite differently depending on the style of boxing you liked, or having certain swing rounds going different ways, or not agreeing with the referee's decision despite it being the referee's decision and possibly the right one, while maybe not the best one. There are a myriad of reasons why these fights were not robberies. Despite that, they are all close fights and if you think your fighter won easily, your next-door neighbour will think the opposite and both will be right!

      Go watch the 'robbery' fights and then judge the rest, without sound, on those. You may change your tune very quickly, unless of course, you cannot get over your bias for a fighter you like, which is the biggest reason for all these ridiculous accusations of 'Robbery!'. Skewed objectivity due to the idolisation of a specific fighter will always ruin your scoring and create threads, nay, posts like the majority in here. Hatton vs Collazo was not in any way, shape or form a robbery. Not even close. The fight was close.

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      • badboypeenoy
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        #53
        JCC Jr vs. Vanda
        Calzaghe vs. Hopkins

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        • abadger
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          #54
          Originally posted by Silencers
          Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1.
          Pernell Whitaker vs JCC.
          Thomas Hearns vs Ray Leonard 2.
          The Leonard and Hearns one was absurd. There is no way on earth that fight could have been scored a draw. None. I thought both fighters seemed su****iously unsurprised and unconcerned by the result though.

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          • Silencers
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            #55
            Originally posted by abadger
            The Leonard and Hearns one was absurd. There is no way on earth that fight could have been scored a draw. None. I thought both fighters seemed su****iously unsurprised and unconcerned by the result though.
            Yeah, no way that could have been scored a draw especially with the 2 knockdowns. I think Hearns is still bitter about it, he keeps calling Leonard out of a third fight.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Silencers
              Yeah, no way that could have been scored a draw especially with the 2 knockdowns. I think Hearns is still bitter about it, he keeps calling Leonard out of a third fight.
              What, now? They may still be young enough to find a home in the LHW division!

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              • El Dominicano
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                #57
                Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1

                Pernell won every ****ing Round!! and Jose didn't even land **** or make it a close round. The biggest Robbery ever. Pernell vs Chavez was a robbery but keep in mind Chavez attempted to win, Jose just sux'd and got the win

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                • Silencers
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  What, now? They may still be young enough to find a home in the LHW division!
                  There was an article posted a few weeks ago just before the Cotto-Margarito fight where Leonard and Hearns were giving their assessment of the fight, Leonard mentioned something about Hearns calling him out for a third fight but Leonard declined.

                  Or cruiserweights, has the third oldest combined age of titlists in boxing.

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                  • El Dominicano
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    There was an article posted a few weeks ago just before the Cotto-Margarito fight where Leonard and Hearns were giving their assessment of the fight, Leonard mentioned something about Hearns calling him out for a third fight but Leonard declined.

                    Or cruiserweights, has the third oldest combined age of titlists in boxing.
                    At they're age? What are they looking for...a 6 round fight.

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                    • Silencers
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by El Dominicano
                      At they're age? What are they looking for...a 6 round fight.

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