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  • El Chicano
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    #11
    Originally posted by danc1984
    I know Pac has fans and I am one of them. Simply looking at it from an economic perspective it is all about value added. Oscar probably adds more than 70% of the value to the fight. IMO Manny should be pretty happy with 30. It will earn him a killing.

    And I think Oscar would beat Margarito. Close fight, granted, but I would give Oscar the edge.
    Too bad Oscar don't give himself the edge, then maybe we'd have a good fight in December.

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    • JoartCC
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      #12
      Originally posted by danc1984
      I know Pac has fans and I am one of them. Simply looking at it from an economic perspective it is all about value added. Oscar probably adds more than 70% of the value to the fight. IMO Manny should be pretty happy with 30. It will earn him a killing.

      And I think Oscar would beat Margarito. Close fight, granted, but I would give Oscar the edge.
      Oscar gasses out after 4 rounds.

      Then Marg proceeds to murder DLH.

      Floyd recieved a 30-70 share knowing that the fake had very little fanbase.

      This is not a case of DLH selling the whole fight.

      A good portion of those who will buy this will come from Pac's side which will further enhance sales.

      Pac knows this.

      DLH knows this.

      Only DLH is too greedy and too egoistic.

      Good for Pac to refuse and dump DLH.

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        #13
        Originally posted by JoartCC
        Oscar gasses out after 4 rounds.

        Then Marg proceeds to murder DLH.

        Floyd recieved a 30-70 share knowing that the fake had very little fanbase.

        This is not a case of DLH selling the whole fight.

        A good portion of those who will buy this will come from Pac's side which will further enhance sales.

        Pac knows this.

        DLH knows this.

        Only DLH is too greedy and too egoistic.

        Good for Pac to refuse and dump DLH.
        PPV history disagrees with you. DLH would easily account for over 70% of the revenue from this fight and is therefore entitled to at least that much in my view. Nothing at all against Manny, its just the way it is.

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        • JoartCC
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          #14
          Originally posted by danc1984
          PPV history disagrees with you. DLH would easily account for over 70% of the revenue from this fight and is therefore entitled to at least that much in my view. Nothing at all against Manny, its just the way it is.
          But then again if history serves me correct Pac has also his history of selling fights bigtime. So DLH may have the bigger end of the stick but it is not by much.

          We can argue about numbers which will be complicated and too varied... but the bottomline... asking 60-40 in the face of all the odds Pac will have to surmount is fair.

          The 10 percent would prolly amount to 4-6 million dollars and DLH will still get his 25 million dollar payday.

          Fair is fair. That is what Pac is asking.

          If DLH doesn't budge then it will be a deal breaker.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JoartCC
            But then again if history serves me correct Pac has also his history of selling fights bigtime. So DLH may have the bigger end of the stick but it is not by much.

            We can argue about numbers which will be complicated and too varied... but the bottomline... asking 60-40 in the face of all the odds Pac will have to surmount is fair.

            The 10 percent would prolly amount to 4-6 million dollars and DLH will still get his 25 million dollar payday.

            Fair is fair. That is what Pac is asking.

            If DLH doesn't budge then it will be a deal breaker.
            Oscar needs to give him 40, at least! Manny is assuming major risk in the fight. Manny is the P4P number one fighter. Manny brings a HUGE fanbase. Oscar is barely a top twenty P4P fighter at this point in his career and he's losing credibility as we speak.

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              #16
              How many pinoys buy PPV compared to how many Oscar fans buy PPV?
              Compare Pacman best PPV sale to Oscar best. Oscar should be getting 80/20 or 70.30 at minimum.

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              • El Chicano
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                #17
                Originally posted by Guled
                How many pinoys buy PPV compared to how many Oscar fans buy PPV?
                Compare Pacman best PPV sale to Oscar best. Oscar should be getting 80/20 or 70.30 at minimum.
                After Oscar's recent showing, his PPV numbers will drop dramatically. I won't buy his last fight unless he fights Tony..........or maybe Brock Lesnar.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Puas
                  I can't believe the man, out of the kindness of his heart, his ethical nature will not allow him to fight Tony Margarito because that would be disrespectful to Paul Williams. It makes me feel so warm inside to know that Oscar cares so much for Paulie, awwwww.

                  But the mother ****er don't give a **** about JM Marquez, his own fighter, whom he's still trying to steal a megabucks fight from in Manny Pacquiao.

                  And the ***** don't give a **** about little Manny Pacquiao who's asking for a 40-60 split, but Oscar won't budge from a measly 30-70. It takes two to tango Oscar and Manny's assuming all the risks.

                  Someone help me out here......
                  Shouldn't people by now learn to not take what Oscar says seriously?

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                  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Puas
                    And the ***** don't give a **** about little Manny Pacquiao who's asking for a 40-60 split, but Oscar won't budge from a measly 30-70. It takes two to tango Oscar and Manny's assuming all the risks.

                    Someone help me out here......
                    Filipinos are idiots.

                    Manny is one of my favourite fighters. I love his energy. But he is making a huge mistake. He has been fighting for 4-5 mil per fight. Here, he has a chance to make 15 mil and he is focusing on percentages.

                    You can't spend percentages, you spend dollars.

                    What if mayweather had gotten caught up in splits and percentages? he would not have made thirty million bucks. Floyd made all types of concessions to get Oscar in the ring: weight, gloves, ring size, location, date, whatever. And that Oscar fight gave FMJ the exposure to make a second future big fight.

                    Manny, wake up.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JoartCC
                      Pac has his own fans.

                      And Pac has a lot of disadvantages.

                      Pac is asking what is fair.

                      Nothing more nothing less.

                      If Oscar is really a fool then he can refuse and fight Margarito. Then Margarito can proceed to give him an ass whooping so bad he'll retire on a wheelchair.
                      Hell, I wouldn't have an argument if Pacquiao asked for 60/40... this really should be an execution for all the disadvantages that Pacquiao has coming into this fight.

                      I'm not saying it will be, after seeing how good Pacquiao has gotten, but...

                      On paper, this should be a public execution, and Pacquaio deserves to be well-compensated for it.

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