Calzaghe vs Hopkins poll

[Dave Rado]

you were giving reasons as to why calzaghe won and you said calzaghe's punches were effective enough to make hopkins fake low blows to avoid a tko. seems strange to mention if you didn't think it mattered.

Because the idiot I was replying to was claiming he landed no effective punches. And if that had been true, Hopkins would not have gassed, despite what you pretend. But that had nothing to do with my scoring, and I didn't say it had anything to do with my scoring.

[Jim Jeffries]

espn, yahoo, ap, and i've even seen some british papers who scored it for hopkins. enzo calzaghe knew joe needed a knockout to win going into the final round but who are your experts?

Couldn't have been that Enzo thought Joe wouldn't get the decision in a close fight in his opponent's home country?

Naaaaaaaaaah.

Try re-watching the fight without the hate goggles, kiddo.

[daggum]

"I can't get my head around the fact that Calzaghe has won that fight. A very strange decision."
BBC Sport's Ben Dirs in Las Vegas

[daggum]

Couldn't have been that Enzo thought Joe wouldn't get the decision in a close fight in his opponent's home country?

Naaaaaaaaaah.

Try re-watching the fight without the hate goggles, kiddo.

yes it could have been that and it could have been that he thought joe was losing and he needed a knockout to win. i'll go with what he actually said as opposed to you who knows what enzo was secretly thinking.

[Motofan]

Super Joe won it by a couple rounds. It was close, but clear.

[daggum]

Because the idiot I was replying to was claiming he landed no effective punches. And if that had been true, Hopkins would not have gassed, despite what you pretend. But that had nothing to do with my scoring, and I didn't say it had anything to do with my scoring.

you can get gassed just by moving around,throwing punches and playing defense. it's silly to believe the very few punches calzaghe landed made hopkins tired. pascal hit hopkins with a lot more punches and knocked him down twice and he wasn't tired.

[-TRGB-]

My perspective;


scoring live (not ideal, if you're invested in a fight), I had it for Hopkins.

I'm a fan of both, but I was pulling for Joe that night because he was the younger man and I wanted him to bolster his record beyond the Hopkins bout by making a match with Chad Dawson or kicking Kelly Pavlik's ass (the Roy fight had also been mooted at that point, but I wasn't keen on the prospect).
At the final bell, I was disappointed because 1) I wanted to see Joe put on a clear, assertive winning performance by a couple of rounds (even though I knew it would be a competetive, awkward fight) and 2) I thought he'd lost the fight. Round after round had seemed to go by without Joe landing a clean effective punch, 'til he finally would land something hard and effective as if to signal a breakthrough, only for more rounds to pass before another such affirmative moment. All the while, Hopkins was sporadically landing clear, clean scoring shots. Late on, Joe's activity took over, but it appeared like he'd lost too many rounds.
However, I was still in the grip of fight-night adrenaline, so, shamefully, I was still hoping the decision would go to the man who I thought lost. As the cards were announced, I was worried and braced myself for a decision in favor of Hopkins, only to be happily surprised. My initial cheer at the decision was tempered by the next day, though, when the hollowness of the victory set in, i.e. the victory felt hollow because I thought the fighter I wanted to win really lost.



I've only ever watched that fight once. Sometimes, after scoring live, I've rewatched a fight multiple times and not been able to find a way to score it for the fighter who I initially thought won (Froch-Kessler is a recent example).

I'll watch it again and score it closely and report back.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

114-113 hOPKINS...................

[Lead Cenobite]

you can get gassed just by moving around,throwing punches and playing defense. it's silly to believe the very few punches calzaghe landed made hopkins tired. pascal hit hopkins with a lot more punches and knocked him down twice and he wasn't tired.

ko by logic

[daggum]

My perspective;


scoring live (not ideal, if you're invested in a fight), I had it for Hopkins.

I'm a fan of both, but I was pulling for Joe that night because he was the younger man and I wanted him to bolster his record beyond the Hopkins bout by making a match with Chad Dawson or kicking Kelly Pavlik's ass (the Roy fight had also been mooted at that point, but I wasn't keen on the prospect).
At the final bell, I was disappointed because 1) I wanted to see Joe put on a clear, assertive winning performance by a couple of rounds (even though I knew it would be a competetive, awkward fight) and 2) I thought he'd lost the fight. Round after round had seemed to go by without Joe landing a clean effective punch, 'til he finally would land something hard and effective as if to signal a breakthrough, only for more rounds to pass before another such affirmative moment. All the while, Hopkins was sporadically landing clear, clean scoring shots. Late on, Joe's activity took over, but it appeared like he'd lost too many rounds.
However, I was still in the grip of fight-night adrenaline, so, shamefully, I was still hoping the decision would go to the man who I thought lost. As the cards were announced, I was worried and braced myself for a decision in favor of Hopkins, only to be happily surprised.My initial cheer at the decision was tempered by the next day, though, when the hollowness of the victory set in, i.e. the victory felt hollow because I thought the fighter I wanted to win really lost.



I've only ever watched that fight once. Sometimes, after scoring live, I've rewatched a fight multiple times and not been able to find a way to score it for the fighter who I initially thought won (Froch-Kessler is a recent example).

I'll watch it again and score it closely and report back.

some of these people must have a lot of adrenaline because they are still pretending calzaghe won.