Tell me it's not about money

[javelin_fangs]

I'm very far from an Oscar De la Hoya fan, but Pacquiao is the one to blame in terms of why the fight is not happening. His last PPV performed very poorly. Remember Oscar did 900,000 buy against Sturm with Hopkins-Allen 3 on the undercard. He did 600-700,000 for both Campas and Castillejo fights.

Even still he guaranteed Pacquiao $20 mil for the fight and Pacquiao turned it down over 10% of the revenue knowing good and well that DLH is the one who owns a promotional company and that Bob Arum is also going to be kniving into the revenues since Pacquiao, like all other Top Rank fighters, wants it that way.

I get it...it's not about the money. I get it...you can't put a price on the excitement Pacquiao brings to the table, etc. But idealist, purist pride aside...if Pacquiao REALLY wanted the fight don't you think he'd accept it knowing he's going to get $20 mil?

[2501 v2.0]

its not about money

[javelin_fangs]

its not about money

Right, he just didn't want the fight...which is cool whatever, but his excuse was about the money, which was my point...Top Rank and it's fighters are so hypocritical.

[2501 v2.0]

Right, he just didn't want the fight...which is cool whatever, but his excuse was about the money, which was my point...Top Rank and it's fighters are so hypocritical.

you sumavabeesh, you asked me to tell you.

[javelin_fangs]

you sumavabeesh, you asked me to tell you.

Lol...I really thought you meant it. LOL

[2501 v2.0]

It could be possible that even he believed this was a very dangerous fight health wise and he wanted to maxamize his reward for risking his well being. Another reason could be that he just wanted to ENTERTAIN the notion of a fight between him and DLH just to raise his stock a little more with casual fans. This fight certainly got some people talking and in this case, any exposure was good exposure. Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao being mentioned in the same sentence. It doesn't hurt marketability.

[javelin_fangs]

It could be possible that even he believed this was a very dangerous fight health wise and he wanted to maxamize his reward for risking his well being. Another reason could be that he just wanted to ENTERTAIN the notion of a fight between him and DLH just to raise his stock a little more with casual fans. This fight certainly got some people talking and in this case, any exposure was good exposure. Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao being mentioned in the same sentence. It doesn't hurt marketability.

Ok, I'll give you.

Just one question, how is that different than Mayweather's dealing with just about any fight he's even thought about negotiating recently? The only reason why I ask is because you've hounded me over the fact that I'm a fan of him and I just don't understand why you get so upset about it. I really don't see any difference in that and what most fighters do...like Pacquiao did in this case. Clearly, he didn't want the fight and that's cool, whatever.

[2501 v2.0]

Ok, I'll give you.

Just one question, how is that different than Mayweather's dealing with just about any fight he's even thought about negotiating recently? The only reason why I ask is because you've hounded me over the fact that I'm a fan of him and I just don't understand why you get so upset about it. I really don't see any difference in that and what most fighters do...like Pacquiao did in this case. Clearly, he didn't want the fight and that's cool, whatever.

I've never hounded you for being a fan of Floyd. The problem is that you and many others on this site have no problem with labeling anyone who doesn't agree with everything that Floyd does as "haters". I don't hate Floyd. My problem with Floyd is that he was the best fighter in the world not fighting the most logical opponents around him.

I didnt LIKE De La Hoya vs. Mayweather I, but I could tolerate it. There was his big money fight right? When that one passed, I was excited to see what was next you know. He got the big money fight that people were dissapointed in, that played out like most experts and hardcore fans knew would play out. Now its time for Floyd to show why he's the best. Then, Mayweather vs. Hatton was announced. I disliked it more than Mayweather vs. DLH I because I personally never believed the Hatton hype. Anyone who truly watched Hatton's latest fights up to May/Hatton knew that Hatton wasn't the fighter he was being hyped up to be by HBO and the promoters. But it happened, oh well. Another big money/low risk fight in the bag. Ok, now FINALLY we can see some REAL boxing. Nope, Mayweather/DLH 2 is in the works. See the pattern?

Now, De La Hoya/Pacquiao is a good fight.......................for Pacquiao. Thats a TRUE challenge. Pacquiao shouldn't get much hate for this because this fight is MORE risk than reward for someone that started out as a STRAWEIGHT. Floyd was doing this with the fighters that weren't the biggest threats in the division. If Floyd was negotiating a fight with Bernard Hopkins or Roy Jones, I guarantee he wouldn't get hate, but he was negotiating a fight with someone he already beat decisively for a fight no one wanted to see. Even if it was just for marketing purposes, it still doesn't compare to what Pac was doing. Know what I mean?

[Da Hammer]

how did the pacquiao/diaz fight do anyway? i thought i heard it did decent...

[m00ks]

Manny was NEVER guranteed 20 million dollars. NEVER.