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  • #51
    Where are you Guled???
    Last edited by -----------; 08-16-2008, 03:31 PM.

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    • #52
      I don't know if this was posted already by someone else..
      I didn't read thru 6 pages of results..
      All I know is, Ricky posted this video so that if Calzaghe Beats Jones, he can have an ****** and give Calzaghe all credit..

      Roy is 50 percent of the fighter he used to be.

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      • #53
        Definitely not underrated. I think he gets the credit he deserves especially by his fans. I was watching ESPN classic last year and where they were doing a special on the top 20 greatest fighters of all time. They had Jones at around 18(and i disagreed strongly) so he is definitely not underrated at all. I must admit that skillwise, he would have to number 1 or 2. He was what some all timers call ''dazingly brilliant''.

        Originally posted by Queensdawg View Post
        I don't know if this was posted already by someone else..
        I didn't read thru 6 pages of results..
        All I know is, Ricky posted this video so that if Calzaghe Beats Jones, he can have an ****** and give Calzaghe all credit..

        Roy is 50 percent of the fighter he used to be.
        I don't even think hes that much of what he use to be. I'd say around 35 percent.
        Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 08-16-2008, 09:01 AM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
          Definitely not underrated. I think he gets the credit he deserves especially by his fans. I was watching ESPN classic last year and where they were doing a special on the top 20 greatest fighters of all time. They had Jones at around 18(and i disagreed strongly) so he is definitely not underrated at all. I must admit that skillwise, he would have to number 1 or 2. He was what some all timers call ''dazingly brilliant''.



          I don't even think hes that much of what he use to be. I'd say around 35 percent.
          lol i woudnt say 35.. against trinidad i would say he was 50. against johnson and tarver would say 25 lol. jut gonna hav t see what he brings against cazaghe. tbh i think evn if jones comes 50% of the fighter he was, he should have an easy night vs calzaghe

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          • #55
            Originally posted by hishaam15 View Post
            lol i woudnt say 35.. against trinidad i would say he was 50. against johnson and tarver would say 25 lol. jut gonna hav t see what he brings against cazaghe. tbh i think evn if jones comes 50% of the fighter he was, he should have an easy night vs calzaghe
            He was about 50 against Johnson and Tarver and 35 against Trinidad IMO. You have to remember the level of opposition that he was facing. Tarver and Johnson were both natural top 10 light heavyweights and very good champions at the time. Trinidad did not fight in 2 years, had lost in his last fight by a boxing master piece to Wright and was fighting at light heavyweight. Not only that but he was also shot. Tarver and Johnson were at the peak of their primes.

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            • #56
              top 10 is going too far. top 50 isn't in my opinion. I think Bert Sugar underrated him when he put him at 84 in his top 100. I think he deserves better than that.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by abadger View Post
                I agree with this, he was just a boxer FFS! Obviously, he was an exceptionally excellent one, but too many people literally believe he could not be beaten and would KO everyone in 3. Jones had trouble with quite a few opponents, and went 12 with even more. At LHW, he wasn't even that hard of a puncher!

                I'd have liked to have seen him in with Benn more than anyone else.
                who do you think had a better resume, Jones or Calzaghe?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by GreatJoe View Post
                  Where are you Guled???
                  Still waiting, you little scared runner.

                  Go hide in the corner caus I pwned your ass.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by GreatJoe View Post
                    Still waiting, you little scared runner.

                    Go hide in the corner caus I pwned your ass.
                    Guled???................

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Terrible... View Post
                      u are assuming that nobody had the ability to make him fight off the ropes in his prime and to an extent u are right but only because he did not face a lot of fighters he should have

                      Roy was not unbeatable in the 90's he struggled against cagey fighters epecially cagey leftys ,okay he did not struggle with Del Valle but he was decked in that fight and whether u believe he was prime or not he struggled with Tarver's cagey southpaw counter punching style as he did with Harmon another cagey counter punching lefty and he struggled with the cagey orthadox counter puncher in Montell Griffin who was outboxing him untill the knockdowns i know Collins and Benn are not cagey fighters but when u look at Roy's game as a whole u can see he had flaws that could have been capatalised on by top fighters

                      bottom line the guy was not unbeatable in the 90's well he never proved he was anyway he looked it though i must admit but it is not gospel that he would of beaten all these top fighters had he faced them


                      BTW he did not look to hot against Sugar Boy Malinga either untill the KO i know Roy won against Malinga ,Griffin ,Harmon ,Dell Valle but that is like me saying Naz beat Kelly ,Boom Boom Johnson ,Sanchez ,by brutal KO's and showed no weakness doing it
                      This post lacks cohesion. Roy Jones was not unbeatable in the '90s sounds ridiculous because 1. Save for a DQ, he WAS unbeaten in the 90's and 2. So he wasn't unbeatable...AND?

                      Who is?

                      Is this the standard we hold him to now? And if so, I'd say one DQ in ten years while winning six titles through three divisions and ranking atop the sport means he damn near held up to that standard.

                      You pointed out Jones struggling with Malinga, I think perhaps we're seeing a different fight. I suppose he struggled with Virgil Hill too? Really, what point are you trying to make.

                      What's happened in the past has happened. Assumptions are all you're giving but there isn't a fighter who matched Jones' resume and performance in that decade. Try again.

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