Idiots and undefeated fighters

[Dan...]

Facts are things that have happened.
Not what we want to have happened. Like Roy beating Tarver.

Get out of my thread.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Get out of my thread.

Public domain.

You want to get cute and cuddly with other Roy lickers, take it to pm.

[Scott9945]

Yea Joe Calzaghe is 45-0...The only QUALITY opponents that he has faced within those 45 bouts are Chris Eubank,Robin Reid,Omar Sheika,Jeff Lacy,Sakio Bika,Mikkel Kessler,and Bernard Hopkins...ALL OF WHICH WERE EITHER UNTESTED PROSPECTS OR WAYY PAST THEIR PRIME. How dare Calzaghe say he has done enough to retire from the sport??

PBF has said the same thing, and while I am a huge PBF fan I dont think that he has done enough to retire yet either. PBF has a way better resume than Calzaghe, and PBF needs to fight the likes of Cotto,Marg,and P Williams to guarantee his placement in the history of the sport.

Calzaghe wont prove nothing for his legacy by defeating Roy Jones. He might not do anything for it by beating Pavlik, either. But atleast he would be remembered for taking fights from those who the fans THINK might have a chance of beating him. Not running around trying to fight future HOF fighters that are way past their prime.

Calzaghe can't retire after Jones and have a guaranteed placement in the HOF, because if he does he will quickly be forgotten by boxing fans after he retires.

Yes he can. Like him or not, he will be a first ballot hall of famer.

[badboypeenoy]

Problem with being undefeated is that the fact that the are "undefeated" is their sole reason for greatness. Give them an L and they're ordinary...If Calzaghe loses before he retires... he'd be a nobody, he wouldn't even cut it for Hall of Fame.

Naz was pound for pound material until he lost, same with Hatton and Cotto. Difference is that Hatton and Cotto could still define a legacy, create an image away from the "undefeated" tag. Naz wasn't able to do that and I doubt Calzaghe will be able to do that if he lost in his last fights.

Mayweather is undefeated, so? That tag doesn't make him the best fighter in his generation.