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  • MELLY-MEL...
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    #11
    for all you uninformed people about clottey's injuries in the marg fight read this b4 you look any more foolish with speculation! ffs.

    LAS VEGAS – Vinny Scolpino walked slowly into an Atlantic City, N.J., hospital room to check on welterweight Antonio Margarito.

    Margarito, now the toast of boxing but on Dec. 2, 2006, a tough if unappreciated champion, had won a harder than expected unanimous decision earlier in the night over Scolpino’s client, Joshua Clottey.

    Scolpino said he had to do a double take when he took a look at Margarito.

    “His head, it was like this,” Scolpino said, holding his hands well outside his ears. “It was swollen so badly. It was huge. I can’t even imagine how thick his skull must be, because he takes all those punches and doesn’t stop coming forward.”


    And it was at that moment, as he looked at Margarito nursing his head wounds, that Scolpino realized what he had in Clottey. This, he realized at the moment, was a fighter who could win a title if he ever got another shot.

    Clottey broke a knuckle on each hand in that fight and said that after the fifth round each punch he landed, and even those he blocked, caused him excruciating pain. They hurt when he was sitting on his stool, let alone when he had to fight a guy that promoter Bob Arum calls a “beast” and a “freight train.”

    Clottey plans to be the beast himself when he meets ex-world champion Zab Judah on Saturday at The Pearl at the Palms for the IBF welterweight belt Margarito surrendered. A native of Accra, Ghana, who grew up idolizing ex-welterweight champion Ike Quartey, Clottey has a record of 34-2 but has been fighting since he was 6.

    He was a part of the Ga tribe in Ghana and lived in a region called Bokum where everyone but the toddlers was expected to fight.

    The future pugilist was only about 6 or 7 and playing soccer when he saw a kid on the opposite team who had been renowned for his toughness and had been training in boxing. Clottey pointed at him and said he wanted to fight him.

    “He beat me up, very badly, very rough,” Clottey said. “He had been learning to fight. I had never fought. I ran home and I got sick and I vomited. I didn’t quit. I knew I couldn’t quit. I had to prove to everyone, the young and the old, that I was tough, too.”

    So Clottey learned to fight and eventually faced his one-time nemesis a second time. The results were slightly different.

    “Same way, but the other way,” Clottey said.

    Translation: It was a bad pummeling, but this time, Clottey was on the delivering end of it instead of the receiving end.

    And he has been delivering beatings for much of the rest of his life. His only losses were by disqualification in 1999 to ex-linear welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir and to Margarito in 2006.

    The loss to Baldomir came as a result of a series of head butts that Clottey insists were unintentional but unavoidable given the style of the fighters. He broke the bones on his hands in the Margarito fight – a bout he was doing very well in early – but has run the table otherwise.

    “No one has ever really beaten me,” Clottey said, “and Zab Judah isn’t going to be the first.” Judah has, as usual, talked a good game and gone to the novel level of bringing in Steve Fitch, better known as the one-time Mike Tyson sidekick “Crocodile.” Fitch screams and shouts and warns of impending doom whenever there are two additional ears in his zip code.

    Clottey, though, is decidedly unimpressed. After the life he lived in Ghana, he said the last thing that will impact him is a loudmouth who’s not even involved in the fight shouting at him. “Zab can talk all he wants, but I know one thing, nothing any of us say will matter when it’s just me and him,” Clottey said. “Then it will be time for Zab to pay

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      #12
      Originally posted by Melly-Mel
      for all you uninformed people about clottey's injuries in the marg fight read this b4 you look any more foolish with speculation! ffs.

      LAS VEGAS – Vinny Scolpino walked slowly into an Atlantic City, N.J., hospital room to check on welterweight Antonio Margarito.

      Margarito, now the toast of boxing but on Dec. 2, 2006, a tough if unappreciated champion, had won a harder than expected unanimous decision earlier in the night over Scolpino’s client, Joshua Clottey.

      Scolpino said he had to do a double take when he took a look at Margarito.

      “His head, it was like this,” Scolpino said, holding his hands well outside his ears. “It was swollen so badly. It was huge. I can’t even imagine how thick his skull must be, because he takes all those punches and doesn’t stop coming forward.”


      And it was at that moment, as he looked at Margarito nursing his head wounds, that Scolpino realized what he had in Clottey. This, he realized at the moment, was a fighter who could win a title if he ever got another shot.

      Clottey broke a knuckle on each hand in that fight and said that after the fifth round each punch he landed, and even those he blocked, caused him excruciating pain. They hurt when he was sitting on his stool, let alone when he had to fight a guy that promoter Bob Arum calls a “beast” and a “freight train.”

      Clottey plans to be the beast himself when he meets ex-world champion Zab Judah on Saturday at The Pearl at the Palms for the IBF welterweight belt Margarito surrendered. A native of Accra, Ghana, who grew up idolizing ex-welterweight champion Ike Quartey, Clottey has a record of 34-2 but has been fighting since he was 6.

      He was a part of the Ga tribe in Ghana and lived in a region called Bokum where everyone but the toddlers was expected to fight.

      The future pugilist was only about 6 or 7 and playing soccer when he saw a kid on the opposite team who had been renowned for his toughness and had been training in boxing. Clottey pointed at him and said he wanted to fight him.

      “He beat me up, very badly, very rough,” Clottey said. “He had been learning to fight. I had never fought. I ran home and I got sick and I vomited. I didn’t quit. I knew I couldn’t quit. I had to prove to everyone, the young and the old, that I was tough, too.”

      So Clottey learned to fight and eventually faced his one-time nemesis a second time. The results were slightly different.

      “Same way, but the other way,” Clottey said.

      Translation: It was a bad pummeling, but this time, Clottey was on the delivering end of it instead of the receiving end.

      And he has been delivering beatings for much of the rest of his life. His only losses were by disqualification in 1999 to ex-linear welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir and to Margarito in 2006.

      The loss to Baldomir came as a result of a series of head butts that Clottey insists were unintentional but unavoidable given the style of the fighters. He broke the bones on his hands in the Margarito fight – a bout he was doing very well in early – but has run the table otherwise.

      “No one has ever really beaten me,” Clottey said, “and Zab Judah isn’t going to be the first.” Judah has, as usual, talked a good game and gone to the novel level of bringing in Steve Fitch, better known as the one-time Mike Tyson sidekick “Crocodile.” Fitch screams and shouts and warns of impending doom whenever there are two additional ears in his zip code.

      Clottey, though, is decidedly unimpressed. After the life he lived in Ghana, he said the last thing that will impact him is a loudmouth who’s not even involved in the fight shouting at him. “Zab can talk all he wants, but I know one thing, nothing any of us say will matter when it’s just me and him,” Clottey said. “Then it will be time for Zab to pay
      Thanks for doing my homework.

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #13
        Originally posted by boxaholic
        Thanks for doing my homework.
        Heres the result

        Margarito W12 Clottey.


        So Josh had busted hands?

        Big deal, its a fight.

        Happens all the time.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
          Heres the result

          Margarito W12 Clottey.


          So Josh had busted hands?

          Big deal, its a fight.

          Happens all the time.
          Margarito won that night. My point was that Clottey's injury affected the outcome in the fight. When a fighter quits because of injury (Klitchko,Vazquez) its deamed heartless but if a fighter goes on and has good result that my friend Doesn't Happen All The Time.

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            #15
            Originally posted by boxaholic
            I must of missed it. Have you ever seen Clottey in such pain besides that Margarito fight.

            No, but I've never seen him under as much pressure in any other fight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by boxaholic
              Margarito won that night. My point was that Clottey's injury affected the outcome in the fight. When a fighter quits because of injury (Klitchko,Vazquez) its deamed heartless but if a fighter goes on and has good result that my friend Doesn't Happen All The Time.

              Margarito had injuries as well.

              Do Margaritos injuries not count? Had he not been injured one could easily say that he probably knocks Josh out.



              Enough with the excuses. The outcome has been determined.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Scott9945
                No, but I've never seen him under as much pressure in any other fight.
                So if he fights Judah is he a punk or just taken the easy way out?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone

                  Margarito had injuries as well.

                  Do Margaritos injuries not count? Had he not been injured one could easily say that he probably knocks Josh out.



                  Enough with the excuses. The outcome has been determined.
                  No excuses just the facts. He will have a chance to prove if he has a legacy or not. Before Cotto Margarito was getting little to no props. Now everybody is in love with the guy. Good fighter I am just not sold on his boxing ability. If he fights Zab next he will be going from The most feared man in boxing....TO what?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by boxaholic
                    So if he fights Judah is he a punk or just taken the easy way out?
                    That largely depends on whether Clottey is available to fight after his most recent injury. After their last fights a win over Judah wouldn't prove very much. Before their last fights half of the fans would have picked Zab though. He keeps conning people into believing in him, which makes him an attractive opponent for promoters.

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                      #20
                      It aint as bad as it was last week.

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