Manny Pacquiao Says De La Hoya Fight is "Personal"

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  • thalej12
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    #51
    over rated

    please talk about over rated? Pernall whitiker was pretty over rated and who won when him and Oscar fought? oh yeah that what I thought. Oscar didnt duck anyone and he won way more then 4 rounds in the floyd gayweather fight, trust me I was there!

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      #52
      Originally posted by thalej12
      please talk about over rated? Pernall whitiker was pretty over rated and who won when him and Oscar fought? oh yeah that what I thought. Oscar didnt duck anyone and he won way more then 4 rounds in the floyd gayweather fight, trust me I was there!
      A boxing expert??? Pernell Whitaker was overrated??? OMG... holy smoks... just watch the Floyd-DLH fight on tape one more time... he ain't won more then 4 rounds... trust me...

      Who was the greatest HW for you??? Mike Tyson??? *loooooooooooooool*

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      • pernall whitake
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        #53
        Go ahead and watch the whitaker de la hoya fight again. He couldn't even hit him. Or maybe you should watch the Felix strum de la hoya fight. Gift decision for the Golden girl

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          #54
          oscar didn't really beat sweet pea. he was given a gift because he was the younger guy.as a matter of fact who has he really beat. oh. floyd no,mosely no maybe the second fight, hopkins no trinidad no. he has never beat anyone that was considered to be great. gift decisions against sweet pea, quartay. he beat an old chavez oh i forgot he beat vargas. but who hasn't.

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          • ListenUpWell
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            #55
            DLH-Hopkins and the PPV name game

            Going with the who has Oscar beat vibe, I'm dubious about whether Hopkins actually beat DLH all those years ago you know (even though DLH is in my top 10 fav fighters, or was before the Mayweather fight). I think whoever bribed DLH to go down to that body shot from Hopkins beat DLH that night

            Pac-man Vs DLH:
            Bank-Off
            There Will Be Benjamins
            Pound 4 Pound
            Mo' Money Mo' Concussions

            This fight reminds me of that character from the film How High - I Need Money. I can just picture Pac with little dollar signs in his teeth. I aint gonna buy this just in case it is over quick, stream it all the way woooo 1 dollar says that Arum gets involved with a steel chair lol

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            • thalej12
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              #56
              lets not talk about the Trinidad fight please, because we all know that was a boxing lesson that trinidad didnt know what to do! Everybody just hates on Oscar, so thats why some of his descions are (trinidad, Mosely both) are terrible! Quartey, are you serious? did you see the 10th and 12th round? obviously not, because nothing about that fight was a gift Oscar went out and took that one! Vargas was one of the best fighters in the world when Oscar took care of him!

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                #57
                Originally posted by bishop2006
                Im a hardcore fan,i think Pacman is too small,but im still gna order it 100%,just to see if Pacman CAN do it,i remember Forbes hitting DLH with hard shots for alot of rounds at will,leaving DLH bruised,Pacman is faster and a harder puncher then Forbes
                I think that Manny is a stronger puncher, but not noticeably faster than Forbes. And he's not nearly as good a boxer. Also Forbes has had quite a bit of experience fighting aty wellter, if folks recall that he wa a prime Contender contender......

                Last but not least,I believe that Manny, more restricted in skill, gets more easily discouraged if his attempts are not working, and can't change his style to plan B, since he has nearly always succeeded with his plan A. When it didn't work, he lost, or had a "so-so" win.......

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by thalej12
                  please talk about over rated? Pernall whitiker was pretty over rated and who won when him and Oscar fought? oh yeah that what I thought. Oscar didnt duck anyone and he won way more then 4 rounds in the floyd gayweather fight, trust me I was there!
                  Your right Pernall Whitiker is over rated! I know you aren't talking about Pernell Whitaker who is one of the best to ever lace them up. You've got all the right to be an Oscar fan but, he and Pernell skill wise no contest PW wins hands down. If anything Pernell is more under rated then over rated. If anyone is over rated it's Oscar. I don't hate your boy just telling the truth.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by thalej12
                    lets not talk about the Trinidad fight please, because we all know that was a boxing lesson that trinidad didnt know what to do! Everybody just hates on Oscar, so thats why some of his descions are (trinidad, Mosely both) are terrible! Quartey, are you serious? did you see the 10th and 12th round? obviously not, because nothing about that fight was a gift Oscar went out and took that one! Vargas was one of the best fighters in the world when Oscar took care of him!
                    Oscar's fight with Quartey was won in the 12th rd, and then only barely. It could have gone either way. When he beat Vargas, the scorecards were very close, and zVargas was actually already well-over-the-hil, had been since Trinidad nearly killed him.

                    Mosley won both Oscar fights the first actually much easier than the second, at least 116-112 or better, lots of good exchanges but almost every exchange was finished by Mosley, who was also faster and heavier puncher. A very clear Mosley win. It was "scored" a split decision.......How come.....definitely home-cooked judging. The second was unanimous, but closer. For the last half of the fight Oscar must have lost every round, Mosley was hamnmering him with body shots so heavy that Oscar was nearly doubled up by fight's end. His chest protector even, didn't help him here.

                    As for Trinidad, Oscar lost clearly, Trinidad got in a terrific body punch in the middle of the fifth, almost unnoticed by most, and from then on, increasingly, Oscar was just
                    flashing-in-the-pan, and ore and more on the retreat, until, for the last five rounds, he was almost racing away so that Trinidad couldn't put him away. the last 5 rounds on the judges cards were trinidad's and he won a few of the earlier rounds too.

                    I like Oscar, as a fighter anyway (I don't care much for his Promoter tactics) I like to see him fight, and i know he always gives it his best. But....facts are facts.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      I think that Manny is a stronger puncher, but not noticeably faster than Forbes. And he's not nearly as good a boxer. Also Forbes has had quite a bit of experience fighting aty wellter, if folks recall that he wa a prime Contender contender......

                      Last but not least,I believe that Manny, more restricted in skill, gets more easily discouraged if his attempts are not working, and can't change his style to plan B, since he has nearly always succeeded with his plan A. When it didn't work, he lost, or had a "so-so" win.......
                      Totally agree... Forbes hit him so often cause Forbes is a ''boxer''. Don't get fooled by the Diaz match where Manny supposedly was the boxer... DLH is the better boxer of the two... DLH has more punching power... DLH is simply too big...

                      This fight is simply a big FU to boxing. GB destroys boxing. I mean DLH was mad as Floyd took Hatton... DLH wanted to fight him. If it would have been a decision he probably could have but Floyd knocked him out. Floyd looked small against DLH... and Hatton looked small against Floyd... so DLH said it's simply too much of mismatch... and what he does then??? He takes on PacMan *loooooooooool* PacMan would look small next to Hatton... so you do the math... this is a big FU to boxing... the biggest mismatch in PPV History... will probably do about 1.5 Million buys... DLH knocks him out as soon as he touches him... and will ride into the Hall of Fame... a few years from nowbecause history is always written by the winners nobody will even know that Pac was the underdog. He was the P4P champion and the only advantage DLH had was his size... they will make it look like an upset...

                      And now it's really getting sad... cuz I have do defend DLH... I never thought this day would come... I really don't understand why ppl saying that he has to fight Margarito. First of all... has to or the right to fight somebody is always objective and second of all nobody has trhe right to face some1 (expection the mandatory, but DLH is no Champion) and everybody has the right to fight somebody. This is a farewell fight... so why should he pick the biggest challenge out there. If he has to fight for his legacy in his last fight he really did something wrong. This is a farewell fight and not a I have to proof I'm the best fight. !!!FAREWELL FIGHT!!! But I agree that for an Farewell fight you should pick some1 who is at least your size or weight class... that you want to win your last match is clear... but if you only can do it against some1 that small... you probably should retire without farewell match... but why should he care... 1.5 Million buys for a fight he wins with eyes closed...

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