prime SRR vs prime RJJ

[Elie]

who takes it and why?

[larryx]

i see your new but enough of the fantasy fights!!!the old school fighter will always get the nod 9 times outta 10..roy was to big for ray robinson he wouldve knocked him out

[Elie]

roy was to big for ray robinson he wouldve knocked him out

indeed

[abadger]

I have no real idea, there are apparently no tapes of a truly prime SRR. However, I think it is reasonable to asume that the modern athlete would likely prevail, especially considering the natural size advantage.

Disregarding this, and pound for pound, it is also reasonable to assume that the opinion of more knowledgeable people than you and I, that SRR is the greatest boxer of all time is correct, and thus would beat Jones P4P. No-one thinks Jones is the greatest of all time, or shouldn't.

[OTSS]

I have no real idea, there are apparently no tapes of a truly prime SRR. However, I think it is reasonable to asume that the modern athlete would likely prevail, especially considering the natural size advantage.

Disregarding this, and pound for pound, it is also reasonable to assume that the opinion of more knowledgeable people than you and I, that SRR is the greatest boxer of all time is correct, and thus would beat Jones P4P. No-one thinks Jones is the greatest of all time, or shouldn't.

Thats not how it works and anyone who follows that method should be slapped. He can be the greatest but styles make fights. Jones whoops up on him on size alone.

[Spiegelo]

And another thing, why shouldn't anyone think Roy was the greatest of all time? I'd definitely have him up there in top 5. He was unrivaled, the only true competition would rely in rematches against legends he had already beaten (hopkins, toney).

[crold1]

Both in their prime, they were about twenty pounds apart. Roy's prime as 68 to 75; Robinson 47. It's almost like asking who wins Leonard-M. Spinks. Ask it both at 60, and it favors Ray because the end of his prime was there while Roy was only at 60 for a drink of water, was still learning, and had trouble making the weight before he even picked up a belt.

P4P it's not close. Ray beat too deep a pool of competition for the historical. Roy did well, but was handcuffed by self-management and a feud between HBO and DKP that, too often, gets blamed on entirely instead of just partly on Roy when the fact was that DKP fighters were almost invisible on HBO from Tyson-Stewart to Tito's 99 run. DKP had almost all of the best guys and titlists at 60 and 68 through that period, so those fights were almost all muderous makes. Regardless, it leaves Roy with too many 'woulda beats' where there could have been 'did beats.' That he carved a place arguably with the top 25 of all time despite the corporate Boxing era and the limited schedules era is impressive.

[miron_lang]

Roy Jones takes this

It will be like Evander vs Bowe where Bowe = RJJ

[abadger]

And another thing, why shouldn't anyone think Roy was the greatest of all time? I'd definitely have him up there in top 5. He was unrivaled, the only true competition would rely in rematches against legends he had already beaten (hopkins, toney).

I don't know how much boxing you've watched, but I personally think its safe to say that Marvin Hagler alone would have handed prime Roy his ass. That's just one fighter, relatively recently, in one weight class, who doesn't even make everybody's top ten all time. There are a hell of a lot of other boxers out there at other weight classes and time periods. ATG is hard to get.

[larryx]

rjj wouldve ud marvin hagler to much power and speed//srl beat hagler and rjj is bigger faster and stronger than him