Is MAYWEATHER'S Aura of invincibility too High...?

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  • Ryn0
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    #71
    Originally posted by Horus
    Once Again:

    Look who you are Comparing Floyd too?

    The greatest fighter of all time!

    What does that tell you about Floyd?
    What does that tell you about a fighter who can legitimately be compare to the greatest fighter of all time.?

    Who in Floyd's generation could beat Floyd at 130,135, and @ 140.


    See what people dont take into consideration is that the only way to have a balance when compare Floyd to other fighters....Is when you comparing Floyd to All time fighter fighters...

    So what does that tell you about Floyd...?
    I already acknowledged that he's in my top 20 all time so what else do you want me to say? I don't believe he has that "aura" but because he ranked with my top 20 of all time why shouldn't he be compared to the greats if I consider him to be among them?

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    • Horus
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      #72
      Originally posted by Ryn0
      I already acknowledged that he's in my top 20 all time so what else do you want me to say? I don't believe he has that "aura" but because he ranked with my top 20 of all time why shouldn't he be compared to the greats if I consider him to be among them?
      what is your definition of "aura of invincibility"?
      If you have one...

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #73
        Originally posted by Horus
        Who in Floyd's generation could beat Floyd at 130,135, and @ 140.
        130 JMM, Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao would've given him tough fights.
        135 Mosley would've beaten him
        140 Kostya Tszyu would've beaten him.

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        • Ryn0
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          #74
          Originally posted by Horus
          what is your definition of "aura of invincibility"?
          If you have one...
          Perhaps this i where we disagree I perceive an "aura of invinciblity" to be when an illusion is cast over a fighter where they are seemingly unbeatable but can be beaten and have been. The aura makes fighters quit before they get in the ring and fear a fighter before they taste canvas. I do not see it as a sign of dominance over a generation of fighters in a natural weight class. I would call that assertive dominance and greatness. Regardless you make good points and I respect your opinion on this matter.

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          • Horus
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            #75
            Originally posted by Ryn0
            Perhaps this i where we disagree I perceive an "aura of invinciblity" to be when an illusion is cast over a fighter where they are seemingly unbeatable but can be beaten and have been. The aura makes fighters quit before they get in the ring and fear a fighter before they taste canvas. I do not see it as a sign of dominance over a generation of fighters in a natural weight class. I would call that assertive dominance and greatness. Regardless you make good points and I respect your opinion on this matter.
            See these are the type of discussion i like to have, agree to disagree agree....but still we can keep it civil.
            You remind me of my fellow co-workers at my job who i argue boxing with.
            It's like We are reading the same book but not on the same chapter.

            but we can talk about and then move on. Much respect my dude... much my respect...
            These are the kinds of conversations that we have inside the coalition walls....

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            • Ryn0
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              #76
              Originally posted by Horus
              See these are the type of discussion i like to have, agree to disagree agree....but still we can keep it civil.
              You remind me of my fellow co-workers at my job who i argue boxing with.
              It's like We are reading the same book but not on the same chapter.

              but we can talk about and then move on. Much respect my dude... much my respect...
              These are the kinds of conversations that we have inside the coalition walls....
              Yea this is exactly the type of debate that is enjoyable it doesn't feel like a chore to argue a point over. It doesn't end up being "Z0MG you got owned ROFL z0MG".

              Really I wouldn't mind an invite to the coalition if your letting people in? respect man

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              • Horus
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                #77
                Originally posted by Ryn0
                Yea this is exactly the type of debate that is enjoyable it doesn't feel like a chore to argue a point over. It doesn't end up being "Z0MG you got owned ROFL z0MG".

                Really I wouldn't mind an invite to the coalition if your letting people in? respect man
                Yeah Man I love people with different opinions in our group., but as you know our group is a democracy and i dont make any moves unless a majority agrees... but i will without a shout of a doubt give you a good word...

                and fair warning our group is very diverse and opinionated so it takes up to a week for all all mem,bers to agree lol...so it might take up to a week for results...

                but i will give you a word..

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                • Ryn0
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Horus
                  Yeah Man I love people with different opinions in our group., but as you know our group is a democracy and i dont make any moves unless a majority agrees... but i will without a shout of a doubt give you a good word...

                  and fair warning our group is very diverse and opinionated so it takes up to a week for all all mem,bers to agree lol...so it might take up to a week for results...

                  but i will give you a word..
                  Sure man no problem just enjoyed having this debate with you give me shout when it's done.

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                  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Ryn0
                    Ok you make a good point but there alot of fighter that moved out of there own weight class like the previously mentioned Duran and fighters like Leonard, Robinson, Hearns, RJJ etc. I even at there natural weight they don't have an aura of invicibility. Robinson at MW was almost as good as his WW version and one of the top 5 MW's of all time. Could the same be said for Mayweather when he moved up?

                    Robinson moved up to chase Lamotta btw not because he was struggling to make weight he decided to stay up there when he won.
                    Moved up from 130? From 135? From 140?

                    Which time that MM "moved up" are you referring to?

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                    • Ryn0
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                      Moved up from 130? From 135? From 140?

                      Which time that MM "moved up" are you referring to?
                      140-147 It was in response to talking about Mayweather moving out of his natural weight to face larger opponents since 135 is in his natural weight class then I discount it.

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