Is MAYWEATHER'S Aura of invincibility too High...?

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  • dondi330
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    #111
    Originally posted by Horus


    Here is the Question I am asking anybody reading This:

    What was the first thought or topic that Came in your head that you thought was the Consensus around boxing after the cotto/Margarito Fight?

    What I notice right After The Cotto/Margarito Fight.

    Was How People really started to unknowingly appreciate Mayweather skill,Class, and greatness even more.

    For example, Even when Margarito is AT the Height OF HIS career with his win over cotto. People could not just let it be Margarito's Night.

    The very first Question was Could he beat Floyd...?

    And then the arguments began....

    Think about that, Even at the Highest Point in Margarito's Career when he has basically become ruler of the WW division, he is still look at as number 2 in people's eyes compare to Floyd and so is every other boxer in Floyd's Generation.

    You can not say who is the greatest Fighter in the past 25 years Without Mentioning Floyd and be taken seriously. Amazing right?



    You guys what does that tell you from a naked perspective as a human being about the importance of Floyd....

    I have said this before

    It's like THIS,you got Floyd who has risen to the status of running the whole sport of boxing. He has been knocking out and beating all the previous fighters to challenge him. And Now he runs the sport. He is now been sitting fat, and making WAY TOO MUCH money, and really talking **** to anybody who would listen. He has set his aura of invincibility So High that People now want to see him beat at all cost and in effect they have given Floyd status that even some legendary fighters never gotten.


    Floyd has become what he always wanted to be.

    A Legend while still capable of being active and young

    So that Makes you wonder Is MAYWEATHER'S Aura of invincibility too High...?
    Obessed Much?
    Who the hells first thought after the Cotto vs Margarito fight was Mayweather?...lol
    and Margarito ruling the WW division...whoa? what the?
    Mayweather is good Ill even go as far as saying great, a special fighter...but I think he is thought od too highly.
    I watched Michael Jordan Play and knew something was special about him.
    I feel the same way about Roy Jones Jr.
    But Floyd, he was an excellent talent thats it.

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #112
      Originally posted by Horus


      Here is the Question I am asking anybody reading This:

      What was the first thought or topic that Came in your head that you thought was the Consensus around boxing after the cotto/Margarito Fight?


      So that Makes you wonder Is MAYWEATHER'S Aura of invincibility too High...?

      To answer your first question... I thought, "Margarito just destroyed a beast of a man."


      Second... I think his Aura of invincibility is a little high from people who dont know the sport and think Mayweather will destroy/run through/kill any opponent.

      The thing is, in my opinion, its hard to not acknowledge Mayweather's invincibility. The reason being is that his skills are very very good. Then you got a man who has so much talent. He can beat you with a KO or beat you by literally out boxing you. Its hard to think of anyone who can beat a man that doesn't care if he wins by decision.

      I saw a post talking about Tyson. He is different because he always looked for a KO and that was ultimately his downfall. Where as Mayweather will fight you and if he can win by KO then he will go for it but if he realises that he cant finish you, he will UD you.

      Mayweather is a naturally gifted fighter like RJJ but uses his brains to defeat you(which RJJ never did). Which is why when you think of who can beat him you automatically have to think... "Floyd would just take it to a decision."

      Making his invincibility true. Just like Calzaghe.

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      • Danny Gunz
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        #113
        floyd does not have an aura of invicibility neither does any fighter, floyd has flaws and fighters that can beat him.... if u dont believe it then ur just ignorant

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        • rizkybizness
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          #114
          Horus, I commend you for trying to better yourself and trying to come across as an intelligent person (which I'm not saying you're ****** btw). I say this because your grammar is pretty effed up most of the time but I commend you either way - it's a great thing you try to break the mold.

          I'm done.

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          • elfag
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            #115
            I voted "yes and no", my take:

            Currently, I dont see anyone at 135-147 beating him out of the guys today. I think the best guys who have a chance is probably Williams and Mosley. Williams just because he is so awkward with the huge size and workrate plus a solid chin so it would be interesting. Mosley would be good if he comes with the offense and pressure and combos he could win but if he takes it easy and tries to box I think PBF wins.

            Pac and JMM are both great fighters but PBF I see having an easy time outboxing them. PBF outboxes Cotto as well. Margo he would run and counter all night, Margo wouldnt be able to find him.

            PBF is good, damn good. He can fight on the inside, at midrange, at long rang. He can counter moving backwards ect. He can have an easy night on the outside moving around and countering but if force him to fight like Hatton he has the stamina and inside game to do it. His physical durability and strength is underestimated sometimes but he showed it in the Hatton fight, his conditioning is great, Hatton was tired but he was still fresh. No doubt at all in my mind that he could hang in there with the bigger 147 guys like Cotto and Margo.


            So almost invincible in todays division... maybe, probably. But it doesnt take much to look around and see a ton of fighters who could beat him or have a good chance at it. Even going back just a few years with the likes of Whitaker, Tito, younger DLH, Mosley, Forest, Kostya at 140, would PBF have been undefeated in that division of the late 90s early 2000s? Hell no.

            So it doesnt take much to look around and find some guys capable of beating PBF, just most of them arent fighting today. Going further back to Hearns, SRL, Duran, SRR, or up like Winky at 154 isnt even needed. If PBF was fighting probably 5-8 years earlier I dont think he would be undefeated.

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              #116
              I think the only person back then that would give Floyd problems is SRL.

              Just by the fact that SRL could possibly beat PBF to the punch. Hearns is great too but I think PBF would avoid most of his power shots. Duran...... just.. no. SRR? I dont see it happening. Yes he is a great fighter and started the p4p rankings but no. I think PBF is just too smart for him.

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                #117
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                I think the only person back then that would give Floyd problems is SRL.

                Just by the fact that SRL could possibly beat PBF to the punch. Hearns is great too but I think PBF would avoid most of his power shots. Duran...... just.. no. SRR? I dont see it happening. Yes he is a great fighter and started the p4p rankings but no. I think PBF is just too smart for him.
                Hearns would be a bad matchup for PBF. Trying to box and counter Hearns is hard, I dont think Hearns has ever been outboxed, he was taking SRL to school with the jab and SRL had to pull out all the stops and go to war with him. With Hearns reach, speed and jab that is going to be a major ***** for PBF to try to overcome. Hearns lost to guys in brawls and PBF doesnt have the power to brawl with him and wont be able to outbox him on the outside. Id pick hearns ud.

                I also think Winky at 154 would have been a nightmare matchup as well. Trying to box him from the outside and not landing anything. Trying to get inside but Winky is bigger and stronger and can push him back out. Winky would score enough with the jab to win a ud.

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                • F l i c k e r
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                  #118
                  Yeah, I thought about that but I dont know. I just think Floyd would pull something out of his ass and get the decision. Conterversal split, maybe?

                  Winky? I dont know about that either. Floyd doesn't take too many jabs. I can see Hearns or SRL jabbing the crap out of Floyd but not Winky.
                  Last edited by F l i c k e r; 03-21-2009, 01:37 AM.

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                  • UnDeniable
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                    #119
                    No and Yes

                    Floyd doesn't have the power and dynamic nature of Tyson and Jones

                    Floyd does subtle things which go unnoticed to offset his opponent

                    His defence and positioning are some of the greatest ever, he can fight from distance or in the pocket.

                    Guys with aura of Invincibility are normally KO artists, Liston, Foreman, Tyson etc

                    IMO Floyd is the hardest guy to beat in the sport but his aura of invincibility is not as high as some from the past, although it is the highest in the current day

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