Ricky Hatton v Zab Judah

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  • abadger
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    #11
    Originally posted by Silencers
    The way Hatton lunges in is perfect for Judah to counter with either a straight left hand or a counter left uppercut, I think if Judah can hit Hatton early and often, he'd win by knockout, if the fight goes down the stretch then I'd favor Hatton by a little bit but Hatton has faded a bit in his last few fights down the stretch and has gotten hurt mainly in the late rounds so anything is possible.
    I see no way whatsoever for Judah to win. Judah fades more than Hatton does, and would have no answer to Hatton's pressure. Sure, Judah would land a few, but only in the early rounds, after that I'm pretty sure Hatton would spend the rest of the fight backing him up.

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      #12
      Zab KO. Ricky couldn't stop half the shots Clottey blocked. He looked shakey against Lazcano in mid to late rounds, if Hatton went for his hugs, Zabs uppercuts will make him think twice giving Hatton no gameplan.

      If Hatton gets through Malignaggi, and Judah can land Hatton after a tune up, he should take it as it would be a good payday before retirement. Both men never fought the same Tzsyu.

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        #13
        Originally posted by abadger
        Hatton would beat Judah easy. I don't know if anyone's noticed yet, but the only predictable thing when Judah fights quality opposition is that he loses.
        Hatton would beat Judah easy?This has to be a joke,if not than your a Hatton hugger as well as a Calzombie.Judah has so much more speed than Hatton coupled with the countering ability and the uppercut that will tag Hatton anytime he comes in to hug.If Hatton can be rocked by an innactive lightweight in Lazcano he certainly can be hurt by Judah.Hatton could pressure Zab but he will pay the price more often than he wants to.
        Hatton has struggled with southpaws and can be hit pretty much at will.Now I expect you to talk about how Judah will fade in the fight but before Judah fades Ricky will be laying on the canvas,than Weebler will come on this board and make a thounsand excuses again.


        This is more of a bait post but I would like to hear your breakdown of the fight

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          #14
          Originally posted by abadger
          I see no way whatsoever for Judah to win. Judah fades more than Hatton does, and would have no answer to Hatton's pressure. Sure, Judah would land a few, but only in the early rounds, after that I'm pretty sure Hatton would spend the rest of the fight backing him up.
          Styles make fights, Judah has the style to beat Hatton, he's also a southpaw, Hatton doesn't really like southpaws. And Judah thrives on his opponents lunging in and leaving their chin exposed for counter shots which Hatton does, especially when he leaps in with that left hook.

          I'm not saying Hatton fades worse than Judah but he has faded late in his last few fights and is showing some signs of age or of his bad habits catching up to him.
          Last edited by Silencers; 08-03-2008, 10:17 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ALT-Assassin
            Hatton would beat Judah easy?This has to be a joke,if not than your a Hatton hugger as well as a Calzombie.Judah has so much more speed than Hatton coupled with the countering ability and the uppercut that will tag Hatton anytime he comes in to hug.If Hatton can be rocked by an innactive lightweight in Lazcano he certainly can be hurt by Judah.Hatton could pressure Zab but he will pay the price more often than he wants to.
            Hatton has struggled with southpaws and can be hit pretty much at will.Now I expect you to talk about how Judah will fade in the fight but before Judah fades Ricky will be laying on the canvas,than Weebler will come on this board and make a thounsand excuses again.


            This is more of a bait post but I would like to hear your breakdown of the fight
            Hatton is much better than Judah IMO. I think the fight would go something like this:

            R1-2: As against Mayweather, Hatton comes out fast and pressurises his man. Still fresh he is succesful and catches up to Judah, makes him very uncomfortable, smothers his work and takes the rounds.

            R2-4 Hatton's workrate begins to plateau and the bounce goes out of his step. Judah has more success with his jab. Rounds to Judah.

            R4-8 Now Judah begins to drop off. Jab output drops and we see him going backwards more, avoiding rather than fighting with Hatton. While Judah still has some success with the jab, for the most part they are quite close to each other with Hatton doing the better work. Most rounds to Hatton.

            R8-12 Both fighters quite tired by now and most of the zip has gone out of the fight. Both guys shots have taken their toll, but hatton remains the fresher and still relentlessly comes forward. Judah's jab remains effective but he isn't throwing it enough. It is not enough to keep Hatton off him, and we see that Judah is being broken up. Judah has his momemnts, doubtless hurting Hatton along the way too, but Hatton's aggression carries the day and he takes most of these rounds too, probably conceding the last as Judah summons up a final effort and throws lots of fast combinations.

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              #16
              Judah wins by Left Check Hook

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              • abadger
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                #17
                Originally posted by Silencers
                Styles make fights, Judah has the style to beat Hatton, he's also a southpaw, Hatton doesn't really like southpaws. And Judah thrives on his opponents lunging in and leaving their chin exposed for counter shots which Hatton does, especially when he leaps in with that left hook.

                I'm not saying Hatton fades worse than Judah but he has faded late in his last few fights and is showing some signs of age.
                I don't rate Judah really, but yes, he would have the style to beat Hatton if he were capable of executing it across an entire fight like Mayweather. He isn't. Hatton will do what he always does and come after Judah all night, and Judah will only have an answer to this for a while. Beyond a certain number of rounds Judah will simply not be able to consistently control Hatton. I totally agree he'll hurt Ricky at some point, especially when Ricky too fades, but he won't stop him and Hatton will have done enough to get the decision.

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                  #18
                  If Hatton makes it out of the first 4 rounds, which I'm not so sure about, he might wear down Judah late and win a decision. Hatton looked garbage in his last fight and I'm convinced the blowing up and binge drinking between fights combined with too much punishment in the ring has taken too much of a toll. Weight drain shouldn't be an issue for Judah since he came in at 147 last night.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    I don't rate Judah really, but yes, he would have the style to beat Hatton if he were capable of executing it across an entire fight like Mayweather. He isn't. Hatton will do what he always does and come after Judah all night, and Judah will only have an answer to this for a while. Beyond a certain number of rounds Judah will simply not be able to consistently control Hatton. I totally agree he'll hurt Ricky at some point, especially when Ricky too fades, but he won't stop him and Hatton will have done enough to get the decision.
                    Judah's best chance to win would be to end it early, I agree that Hatton probably would win if the fight goes on for more than 6 rounds.

                    I honestly think Judah could finish Hatton if he got Hatton hurt, Judah is a pretty good finisher.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      Hatton is much better than Judah IMO. I think the fight would go something like this:

                      R1-2: As against Mayweather, Hatton comes out fast and pressurises his man. Still fresh he is succesful and catches up to Judah, makes him very uncomfortable, smothers his work and takes the rounds.

                      R2-4 Hatton's workrate begins to plateau and the bounce goes out of his step. Judah has more success with his jab. Rounds to Judah.

                      R4-8 Now Judah begins to drop off. Jab output drops and we see him going backwards more, avoiding rather than fighting with Hatton. While Judah still has some success with the jab, for the most part they are quite close to each other with Hatton doing the better work. Most rounds to Hatton.

                      R8-12 Both fighters quite tired by now and most of the zip has gone out of the fight. Both guys shots have taken their toll, but hatton remains the fresher and still relentlessly comes forward. Judah's jab remains effective but he isn't throwing it enough. It is not enough to keep Hatton off him, and we see that Judah is being broken up. Judah has his momemnts, doubtless hurting Hatton along the way too, but Hatton's aggression carries the day and he takes most of these rounds too, probably conceding the last as Judah summons up a final effort and throws lots of fast combinations.

                      The fight might very well play out like that but in no way would Hatton beat Judah easily.If Judah can create problems for Cotto{rocking him several times with the uppercut}and Mayweather,he will certainly put Hatton in some uncomfortable situations.

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