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Which fighter is the better fighter overall: Baldomir vs Eubank
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Originally posted by Clegg View PostThis thread pretty much sums up how ****** this forum often is.
"Who is Eubank?"
"I think he might've been black"
"I just look at boxrec. You actually watch boxing? Moron."
"If I haven't heard of someone, they must be a bum"
"My name is DiegoFuego. Duh. Duhhhhhh. Duuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh"
etc.
I recently realised that I hadn't ever seen Freddie Norwood fight. So I started a thread asking for opinions of him (2 posters replied, such is the depth of knowledge around here/interest in non-******ed subjects), I read some old articles, and downloaded what I could find of him. I didn't just look at boxrec and say "he lost to Gainer and Gainer lost to someone I've never heard of 7 years later so Norwood must have been a bum".
I don't understand how people on this forum seem to want to debate a subject that they don't know anything about. If you did this in real life when people were discussing politics, history, philosophy or even some of the other sports that people watch, you would be laughed at.
If you aren't familiar with a world champion who had his best years in the 1990s, there's nothing shameful about that, but to judge someone based upon your ignorance of them or their opposition, and then try and argue with someone who is basing their opinion upon knowledge and experience is a bit ridiculous.
Much of this thread is made up of people looking at boxrec and then claiming that one guy is better than the other because they've heard of more of their opponents. If you haven't been watching boxing long, it's hardly surprising that you've heard of more of the opponents of someone who is still an active fighter than someone who has been retired for several years.
I personally believe that Cotto would beat any of Mayweather's 147 or 140 opponents. Do I therefore decide to go around the forum claiming that Margarito would beat Mayweather based upon this? No. Nor should anyone with an IQ above 0.
Actually that's a bad example, because I have actually seen Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, Judah, Baldomir etc. fight several times, whereas in this thread people are rating old, shot 147 Gatti above a Benn and Watson that they've never watched.
I wouldn't think that I'd need to say that on a boxing forum, but how about you guys go away and watch some boxing?
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Originally posted by AdolfИATAS206, DiegoFuego, El Dominicano, Evil_Meat, Flawless, Grappler_Baki60, KostyaTszyu44, markeeta, oaklandstephen, P4PKING_2008, Pico Hollywood, Pullcounter, SKULLSPLITTER, them_apples, thesyndicate, TRANSWARP
Theese are the people who voted for Baldomir. Please explain why you voted for him.
Baldomir had a very good chin, and he was able to inflate his record by fighting a lot of Argentine cab drivers (who he still managed to lose to quite a few.) He got lucky to get a DQ win over Clottey and managed to fight an old, shot WW version of Gatti. Throw in a close decision of Judah, who disappeared for the second half of the fight, and you have a career that's nothing to be ashamed about. But also does in no way compare to Eubank's.
13 KO/TKOs in 62 fights. Things that make you go hmmmmm.....
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Originally posted by KLITSCHKO. View PostEubank was a very good fighter
Baldomir was a journeyman bum
The ******s AKA Calzaghe haters will vote for Baldomir
The posters with PLAIN AND BASIC COMMON SENSE will vote for Eubank
LOL so pathetic
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Eubank was a very good fighter he just never bothered to step it up in his prime years and paid for it when he was over the hill.
He had Benn, Watsonx2, Rocchigiani, Malinga on his resume. Not a legend but a far better fighter than Baldomir Eubank notched up quite a few title defenses and was never down even against big hitters like Benn and Thompson.
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Originally posted by Flawless View PostWhich fighter is the better fighter overall: Baldomir vs Eubank
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